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Community Lounge, Introductions and General Discussion Discussion, Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best in General Discussion; I actually like the styling of the '13. Especially in LTZ trim. But the backseat room is poor and if ...
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    I actually like the styling of the '13. Especially in LTZ trim. But the backseat room is poor and if it does drive poorly, meh...
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    Re: Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best

    Now, getting back to the CVT transmission.

    I don't like how they act, compared to a traditional automatic transmission. I like hearing the RPMs rise and fall with the changing of the gears, BUT, the CVT is much quicker, smoother and better on fuel than a traditional automatic transmission. I drove a 2013 Accord LX back to back with a 2013 Civic EX that features a traditional five speed automatic. It was nice to hear the rpms change with the automatic, but it wasn't nearly as quick as the Accord, nor as smooth. I could get used to not having those shift points though.
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    Re: Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best

    Quote Originally Posted by CadillacLuke24 View Post

    On top of that, it does look way better. More edgy like the previous generation, not octogenerian like the first half of the current one.
    You have just insulted octogenerians everywhere.

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    Re: Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best

    Quote Originally Posted by 77CDV View Post
    You have just insulted octogenerians everywhere.
    I thought I already did that by buying one of their all time favorite cars

    The '13 'Bu in LTZ trim is sweet. I agree. The '14 just looks a ton better.
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    Re: Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best

    Honda restyled the Civic for 2012...big change from the 2011's, but it was a flop, so they went back to the drawing boards for 2013, cleaned it up a bit and it looks much, much better. Chevy is doing the same with the '14 Malibu.

    Oh and Ted, I left Kia about a month ago for a Honda dealership. Didn't like the management at the Kia store, much happier here.
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    Re: Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best

    The CVT was engineered by people who hate cars. Some are better than others, and Nissan's is among the worst.
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    Re: Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best

    Audi's CVT system is the weak point of those cars too! A lot of buyers prefer to buy the Quattro version just to get the regular automatic transmission or opt for manual transmission!

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    Re: Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best

    Not exactly the main topic of the thread, but Honda's 3.0L V-6 engine really surprised me! Last week I was in the mainland, and a friend of mine came to pick me up. Her car was a 2004 Accord, and it had a V-6 engine! That thing really scared the hell out of me! Imagine a very fancy, feminine girl sits behind the wheel, holding her red purse in her lap, and while she is checking her makeup in the mirror, she slams on the gas and the car goes like crazy! As a regular family sedan, that thing was crazy fast! It is hard for me to confess, but that thing can outrun my STS any day of the week!

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    Re: Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best

    Yeah, those old 3.0 V6 Accords weren't slow by any means! Do you know what year hers was? The 2003 & newer models were 240hp and then in 2006, they bumped it to 244hp. Very quick, with a stout power band and 0-60 times in the mid 6 second range. If you can find one of the very rare Accord EX-V6 with the 6 speed manuals, they'll crack 60 off under 6 seconds, 5.8 to be exact. We've got one at work.....2006 EX-V6 6-speed sedan... black with the beige interior and navigation, what a fun car to drive! It's very fast, but also very quiet and smooth, deceptively smooth & quiet...


    Heck, even with the CVT, the basic 2013 Accord LX gets from 0-60 in about 7.2 seconds, which was V6 territory 10-15 years ago. With the manual transmission, a brand new four cylinder Accord can crack 60 off under 7 seconds! I read an interesting editorial a few months ago from one of the major car magazines that said the four cylinder Accord coupe, with performance like that, is the modern day Prelude.
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    Re: Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best

    I think it was '04, the model year that has a chunky and funny rear end! Somehow I like those models! They are not necessarily the most elegant designs out there, but at least they are different from the mainstream family sedans because of that strange rear end!

    As for the I-4 engines, I agree, especially if they are turbo and come with manual transmission! Believe it or not I had more fun driving a 2.0L Turbo Audi with manual transmission than driving a GTO with LS2 engine and automatic transmission!!!! It seems that things are changing pretty fast! The new 4 bangers are now faster than the 80s and 90s pony cars with V-8 engines!

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    Re: Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best

    I have always heard that the 4 cylinder Hondas were better handling cars than the ones equipped with the V-6. Is that still true, Chad?

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    Re: Car and driver-- Honda accord only 2nd best

    Yes, I'm sure that's true. But, the current generation Accord is the only one to have a four cylinder that is really fun to drive!
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    Quote Originally Posted by orconn
    I have always heard that the 4 cylinder Hondas were better handling cars than the ones equipped with the V-6. Is that still true, Chad?
    I'm gonna jump in on this one.

    Yes the i4 has slightly better handling than the v6 due to reduced engine weight.

    I use to have a 2010 i4 ex sedan...not enough power though, I now got a 2010 ex v6 sedan for daily driving...that thing is nice all around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orconn View Post
    I have always heard that the 4 cylinder Hondas were better handling cars than the ones equipped with the V-6. Is that still true, Chad?
    As others have said, weight plays a part. I bought an '01 Accord coupe and got the 4 cyl to get the manual trans. It was easy to feel it as better balanced. And I don't think the V6 auto was all that much faster...

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