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    Stopped by a dealer today

    Had some time to kill so i thought i would see the new ATS and XTS
    Was not a fan of the XTS.
    They had some SRX but did not really looks at them.
    Got talking to a sales person about my interest in a new FWD mabe AWD Cadillac.
    What an experience

    Strike one!
    So i ask about the ATS and he claimed the ATS was rear drive only
    "Whether you prefer the performance-tuned Rear-Wheel Drive or the available all-weather capable All-Wheel Drive, the ATS was purposefully engineered to deliver exceptional handling and control".

    Strike two!
    He says he has a used NorthStar powered AWD STS.
    I say what? I would like to see this car.
    He claims back in the day we sold many AWD STS.
    I look and find no such thing; He is heart broken (it has window stickers and advertisement as AWD).

    Strike three!
    The only thing he had i may have had a use for was a 2006 DTS 70,000Mi $20,000 And it was on an island of misfit toys i did not feel like a bus trip to see.
    Later in the day we see a local trader paper with a 2005 DeVille half the miles and half the money

    Not sure why he just glossed over several CTS they had.
    cast an eye over over a red platnum edition they wanted 70K for.
    I asked about a Wagon he said there are only two in the state?I asked about the V lineup and he mumbled something about not being the kind of dealer that can sell or order them.

    Think i will just keep going with 1993 thru 1995

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    Re: Stopped by a dealer today

    I have a used Northstar powered AWD STS. Cadillac made a bunch of them 2005-2010.

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    Re: Stopped by a dealer today

    Thanks
    http://www.edmunds.com/cadillac/sts/2006/
    But alas they did not have one unless they where using those cool electric wheel motors.


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    Re: Stopped by a dealer today

    I have to ask, was this a stand alone Cadillac dealer or did they sell Cadillac/Chevy/GMC/Buick/Kia/hyundai . . .

    I say this because the Cadillac/Chevy/Buick dealer on the other side of town sucks IMO as far as Cadillacs they have in stock and the knowledge of their salespeople. Andrews Cadillac in Brentwood is first rate IMO, very knowledgeable staff about their new products and the guys at the parts counter have helped me out a couple of different times on findings some rather esoteric trim bits for my older Caddys.

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    Re: Stopped by a dealer today

    The dealer is
    Chevrolet GMC Buick Cadillac
    That is the order on there sign.

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    Hate to burst your rant but on my LH2 4.6 N* V8 there's 1 transfer case 2 differentials and 4 drive axles....
    There's a convenient little "4" subscript after the STS on the deck lid too to eliminate any confusion....

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    Re: Stopped by a dealer today

    My CTS was listed and priced as a Performance sedan instead of Premium after signing the paperwork when the sales chick came out to assist me with programming all of the functions in the car to my liking before I left did she notice and say wait this is a Premium model oh well.
    I tried calling her about a Majestic Plum Metallic ATS but she is no longer there can't help but think if that is the reason she isnt there.

    This is a large freshly renovated Cadillac only dealer that shares a large mall sized lot with their Bmw Dealership.
    Sales chick told me while helping me program everything in the car because she didnt even need to look at manual for anything she had it all memorized.
    Anyways she told me while doing all of that they had to do monthly test's online with Cadillac where they had to know everything inside and out with every Cadillac model and they were obligated to score a certain % to keep their job.

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    Re: Stopped by a dealer today

    Not a rant.
    Just sharing and learning
    Did not know about the badge.
    I am old school - turned the wheel to lock and looked in there on both.
    No front drive axle i did see an empty notched out area in the sub frame where an axle would go.
    Wonder if they did have an AWD CTS or ATS there?
    What badge do you look for on them?

    Looked under an ATS it was busy under there and the rear differential looked tiny.

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    Any Cadillac that's AWD will simply have a "4" after its model on its trunk. I.e. CTS4 or STS4 xts4 etc etc. all but the escalade that is.

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    Re: Stopped by a dealer today

    Turnover is high in auto sales. Not surprised to see salesman lacking in knowledge about their product.

    I'm looking forward to the new CTS.

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    Re: Stopped by a dealer today

    Quote Originally Posted by truckinman View Post
    Any Cadillac that's AWD will simply have a "4" after its model on its trunk. I.e. CTS4 or STS4 xts4 etc etc. all but the escalade that is.
    Good to know. The first time I noticed a CTS 4. I thought "Oh great! Now you can get a Cadillac with a 4-cylinder"

    Perhaps they should rethink that badging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigm57ict

    Good to know. The first time I noticed a CTS 4. I thought "Oh great! Now you can get a Cadillac with a 4-cylinder"

    Perhaps they should rethink that badging.
    Thats what I thought when I saw them. I was like dafuq?

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    Quote Originally Posted by amunderdog View Post
    Not a rant.
    Just sharing and learning
    Did not know about the badge.
    I am old school - turned the wheel to lock and looked in there on both.
    No front drive axle i did see an empty notched out area in the sub frame where an axle would go.
    Wonder if they did have an AWD CTS or ATS there?
    What badge do you look for on them?

    Looked under an ATS it was busy under there and the rear differential looked tiny.
    Iron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigm57ict

    Good to know. The first time I noticed a CTS 4. I thought "Oh great! Now you can get a Cadillac with a 4-cylinder"

    Perhaps they should rethink that badging.
    Makes sense, only I've never ever seen a car company advertise on their trunk lids that this car only had a 4 cylinder. It's always got the displacement numbers instead of simply saying its a 4 cyl. What's exciting about that. So you'll see "2.5" or something to that effect. Never just a 4 to advertise the cylinder count in that particular car.

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    Re: Stopped by a dealer today

    X-Drive. Quadratrac, 4matic, AWD.

    "4" is actually minimalist!

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