I had an hour long phone conversation with the guy who owns the shell. All in all it seems like an awesome shell, but he made me realize how much work would have to go into swapping the parts between the cars, and I am thinking about all the linkages, rollers, cables, etc that may not survive the transplant. So, right now, I am deciding between going through witht he re-shell ($600 for shell,) or finding another car, already mostly or completely together. He seems to be an authority on corvairs and tells me I should be able to find a rust free running Monza for under $2500 if I look hard, and work the haggle stick properly. So that's where I am at right now.
You will be better off restoring a Ford Pinto and trying to get your money back than the Corvair.
If this is a project you have your heart set on, then go for it!
If not, you may want to consider parting out what you have a cutting your losses ...
I had a landlord who had an interesting collection of Corvairs, various years and models in various stages of decomposition. None of them pristine. I think he may have had 5 or 6, most parked around the property, one or two in garages. I have no idea what his motivation was, he never worked on them to my knowledge. One quirky guy with a bunch of quirky cars!
Yeah, look at the cars I drive. Do any of them seem very rational? I also got into motorcycle partly for the great gas mileage. However, if you have seen my bikes, they top out at about 40MPG for my 900, and my most recent purchase, the CBX, gets around 25MPG. Compare this to "reasonable" commuting bikes that get 60-70MPG. The corvair is one of those things, like my 900, where I am TRYING to be reasonable, but still do what I love. In all other walks of life, I am a very reasonable businessperson who makes decisions at the margin. However, when it comes to wheeled transport...
The corvair is definitely NOT something I plan on profiting on. My dream with a corvair, honestly, is to have one I can fix up and POR-15 the hell out of, commute with it every day until I eventually cave in to reasonability and buy a 2008+ Saab 9-3 (My most favorite "reasonable" car.) and then maybe one day, if I can keep it in good enough shape, pass it on, as an awesome piece of American history. This car was an example of real American ingenuity that was shot down by nonsense media, and there is no car on the road more charming to drive than a corvair.
The first generation was not an example of American ingenuity, but a rather appealing, if copycat design, of a German upstart that was cutting into the low end of Chevrolet's market. GM must have been aware of the safety problems with the swing axle rear suspension used on German cars since the mid 1930's, but chose to design in the same defect that had made VW's and Mercedes unmanageable under certain driving conditions.
The thing that I could never understand was why US designers would put this stupid rear suspension on military jeeps (briefly) during the Vietnam war, where the dangerousness and inferiority of the design regularly land these Jeeps and their passenger in the ditch when a little rain combined with red clay made the roads slippery!
Alright. I've been talking to the guy with the corvair farm, regarding his mostly restored '64 Vert. He's saying he's got over $6k in this car, and he would take my car as a trade and is asking $4k for this one along with my car.
Love the white interior, other than that I guess it would depend on what is under the paint. It strikes me as a 1000-1500 car with about a thousand dollars worth of paint job and about a thousand dollars worth of work to do yet. I have seen a lot of beautifully restored ones go over the block on auction shows and barely clear $6000.00. Unless I am missing something I think that project would be worth about $3000.00 at most.
Things like the rust on hinge in trunk photo #8 would make me wonder what it was when he started to be that rusty up under there!??
I, personally, would pass on it. Basically, you'd be buying it for $4k plus what ever you've spent on your first car. You have to ask yourself;
1) Is it worth the money plus what you will have to spend to finish the restoration?
2) Are you up to the task?
3) The engine looks like it hasn't been touched, are you willing to rebuild it?
4) What do you estimate the total cost to you will be when it's done? (I'm guessing neighborhood of $10k when all is said and done)
If you can answer an enthusiastic 'Yes' to each of the above, plus any other questions they might conjure, then I think you have your answer!
Here is what he has said about it. I have spoken at length with him. He was restoring it for himself, but he fell ill and it's hard for him to move around now. He has over 20 corvairs.
He says all parts are included, and all I have to do is assemble it, and re-seal the engine. The engine doesn't scare me. Corvair engines are both a breeze and a blast to work on. You can see in the photos the new weatherstrips, which are a pretty big deal. He is encouraging me to come and check it out. Dave, your opinion has the most weight. What is your opinion, in light of these new facts?Quote:
Its Dusty - needs carpet and finished up - has NOS parts all over - including the rear taillight housings and lens - complete rubber and weatherstrip replacement (including front windshield) - when painted - any rust was cut out and replaced with original steel panels - engine does run - but will need to be resealed - Rhino Lined trunk and engine compartments - Right at 6000.00 in receipts - can't remember everything that has been done to date and not certain I can actually find all the receipts. on the paint - everything painted to match - inside and out including door jams - inside of car down to the steering wheel and trunk and engine lid interior.
That junkyard one was kinda fun/easy to tear apart....