Community Lounge, Introductions and General Discussion Discussion, E15 Fuel in General Discussion; Originally Posted by gary88
E10 is being rejected in Germany.
I wish we had a choice in this matter.
Not only is it bad for our cars and the environment, it drives up food prices and taxes. It's the perfect wacko leftist cause! (Because it gives them more power while weakening everyone else.)
NASCAR will do absolutely anything for money. I didn't mind that they single-handedly kept tobacco advertising on TV. But ever since Brian France has taken control, he has systematically ruined one of my favorite things. He is just as ignorant and arrogant as all the rest.
Automobile(s): White Diamond '03 DHS (with DTS floor shift)
Re: E15 Fuel
Originally Posted by submariner409
I believe the posted article said that Germany has rejected ANY addition of Ethanol to gasoline.
Obviously, Germany does not have an organized Big Corn lobby to pull the blinders over politicians and the EPA's eyes.
"NASCAR uses E15". Two drops of E15 in a race car's fuel allotment for a 500 qualifies that statement.
Well, that was MY statement. In watching the race on Sunday I was under the impression that they where running 15% ethanol in the tanks. I could well be wrong OR they could be being a little deceptive as per your statement to lead us to think that they are endorsing this shit.
NASCAR does use the 15% stated, but for racing, it works quite well (except for miles per gallon as we all know). Ethanol has a higher octane per unit, and since these engines only run one weekend (before being torn down for rebuild) non of the long term damage has any chance of occuring.
As proposed the 15% ethanol will be added (at least initially) as a separate pump so the choice will still be yours (though the alternative is 10%). It will be interesting if the new stuff will carrry a lower price (it would have to for anyone who knew the difference) to use it.
It is going to be interesting in the next year or two to see what shakes out for our motoring fuel; will diesel make any headway, how far will gas prices go up (and stay), will the 15% replace 10%, and will any oil company step up and include an ethanol treatment for their fuels (right at the pump).