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    Three awful cars.

    http://jesda.com/2011/02/28/three-awful-cars/

    I know there's a lot of malaise-era enthusiasts on the forum. Here's three.



    Its baffling that GM would put a four door vehicle on the market with rear windows that don’t go down… at all! Diplomat scores points for offering more standard equipment and at least being durable enough for police and fleet use. Diplomat and Monaco M-bodies had a long lifespan, from 1977 to 1989.


    Admittedly, Diplomat was not the worst looking car in the world. With clean lines, a tasteful hood ornament, padded vinyl roof, wire wheel covers, and Cadillac-like headlamps, it pretended to be upscale.



    Nothing redeeming here. A fastback, yes. Fast, no. Oldsmobile’s attempt at European design was a failure.



    Ford was betting on the ignorance of its customers, and it worked. They found more than two million idiots.


    I admit, I’m being a bit harsh. You have to evaluate these cars in the context of their time. We may look back on the Camry in 30 years and wonder what the hell we were thinking.


    For those of you who were alive back then, did they seem as awful as they seem now?

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    Re: Three awful cars.

    Ford seriously thought the Granada looked like a Benz? Best drugs, in the world, EVAR.

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    Re: Three awful cars.

    Heh, Heh, Heh
    A friends Mom had the diplomat (maroon). It was not that bad of a car. It would start getting that "floaty" ride about 90 mph. I think it had a 318 2V under the hood.
    I also knew a chick that had the Olds 4 door (same color). The styling (both her and the car) were considered "sub par" back then.
    I hit it anyway... LMAO

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    Re: Three awful cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by ga_etc View Post
    Ford seriously thought the Granada looked like a Benz? Best drugs, in the world, EVAR.
    I always wondered why Ford would want their cars to look like Mercedes. Cadillacs, I can see, but not Mercedes with their boxy and bland styling.

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    Re: Three awful cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesda View Post
    http://jesda.com/2011/02/28/three-awful-cars/

    I know there's a lot of malaise-era enthusiasts on the forum. Here's three.



    Its baffling that GM would put a four door vehicle on the market with rear windows that don’t go down… at all! Diplomat scores points for offering more standard equipment and at least being durable enough for police and fleet use. Diplomat and Monaco M-bodies had a long lifespan, from 1977 to 1989.


    Admittedly, Diplomat was not the worst looking car in the world. With clean lines, a tasteful hood ornament, padded vinyl roof, wire wheel covers, and Cadillac-like headlamps, it pretended to be upscale.



    Nothing redeeming here. A fastback, yes. Fast, no. Oldsmobile’s attempt at European design was a failure.



    Ford was betting on the ignorance of its customers, and it worked. They found more than two million idiots.


    I admit, I’m being a bit harsh. You have to evaluate these cars in the context of their time. We may look back on the Camry in 30 years and wonder what the hell we were thinking.


    For those of you who were alive back then, did they seem as awful as they seem now?
    They were all decent cars back then. I remember in '76 my uncle bought a Granada and wrecked shortly thereafter. He then bought a '78 LTD. I think you picked the wrong batch of cars to pick on. These are not sought after cars but they are all pretty cool, somewhat.

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    Re: Three awful cars.

    HEY! One of those idiots was me,used to own a Mercury Monarch which I believe WAS a Granada.There was nothing worse than a Chevy Chevette or Ford Aspire imho,both of which I have driven.

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    Re: Three awful cars.

    With the exception of that hatchbacked atrocity, none of those offends my senses even half as much as this pile:



    It's amazing how many vomit inducing cars were produced from roughly the same platform that also produced the fantastic Fleetwood.

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    Re: Three awful cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Destroyer View Post
    They were all decent cars back then. I remember in '76 my uncle bought a Granada and wrecked shortly thereafter. He then bought a '78 LTD. I think you picked the wrong batch of cars to pick on. These are not sought after cars but they are all pretty cool, somewhat.
    You had me until "cool, somewhat"

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    Re: Three awful cars.

    I ques you had to be there! In 1978 the handwriting was on the wall as far as the huge land cruisers of the previous decade were concerned. GM had already downsized and greatly improved the build quality of their full size cars. Ford was trying to catchup and Chrysler had had a success with the Cordoba and the Volares. The shock of the "Gas Crisis" of 1973 was still a recent memory.

    In 1978 Chrysler brought out there attempt at mid sized, mid-market cars with the introduction of the Dodge Diplomat/ Chrysler LeBaron, not quite as "luxurious" as the Cordoba, but certainly upmarket from the the entry level Volare. Ford also was trying to stay abreast of the market and there mid sized Monarch/Granada were definitely a step up from what Ford had been offering in this market niche.

    The Europeans were offering underpowered, over priced (in the case of BMW and Mercedes cars that really weren't suitable for American driving conditions. The powerful European cars were in a completely different price range than the American middle class family could afford, the European cars that were affordable were slow and had reputations for being prone to electrical problems. Japanese had come into there own as small economy cars, but really were suitable for Americans families needing passenger and trunk space, not to mention cars capable of eating up the long distances of the Midwest.

    Against this backdrop, and expecting the arrival of a new child in the family, I ditched my wife's 1978 Pontiac Firebird Esprit with a 350 V-8 for a 1978 Dodge Diplomat wagon. The Diplomat was a nice size and decent looking, and could accommodate a stroller, playpen and numerous other trappings of a baby passenger. The Diplomat wagon was white with vinyl wood grain side appliqué, with a nice roof rack, Corintian leather seating ( exactly as shown in the film clip) and a 360 V-8 (which was not available on any other comparatively sized wagon at that time). To be honest "Dudley Dooright" the Dodge was a decent car for its time and purpose. Never had any trouble with it and after 21/2 years of baby hauling duty, when playpens were no longer needed I sold it to my best friend who drove it back to Pennsylvania from California and used it for another ten years, and it was replaced with a Peugeot 505S (which turned out to be my wife's all time favorite car).

    So when passing judgment on these transitional cars of late seventies you really have to take into account the time and what was available and affordable in the marketplace at the time. Yes there were Sevilles, Jag XJ6s, Mercedes 450SEs and ,thank God the full sized GM cars, but most middle class families needed nice but economical transportation to better cope with the new reality of high fuel prices.

    So, you really had to be there!

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    Re: Three awful cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Playdrv4me View Post

    It's amazing how many vomit inducing cars were produced from roughly the same platform that also produced the fantastic Fleetwood.
    I hate everything about that statement.


    The three cars discussed in this topic do not interest me at all. In all reality, the '70s cars sucked, aside from the early '70s muscle cars and the luxury cars which I love so much. Most everything else was ugly, underpowered, rust prone and just plain weird.
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    Re: Three awful cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by I~LUV~Caddys8792 View Post
    I hate everything about that statement.
    That's because you like cars that look like this...





    (Side note... Why would you even MAKE a CarDomain page for that?)

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    Re: Three awful cars.

    Drew thinks it's funny because that's secretly his old car...

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    Re: Three awful cars.

    Quote Originally Posted by ga_etc View Post
    Drew thinks it's funny because that's secretly his old car...
    Close, but wrong color and too little rust!

    The difference is I don't seek them out, I just accept them as hand-me-downs

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    No, that's nicer than his old car. He only had the Eighty Eight, that's the Ninety Eight!
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