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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)


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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    I very seriously thought hard about a late 90s XK8 before I bought the Seville. The timing chain issues worried me, but they're SO pretty. I thought hard about a Boxster too, but the potential catastrophic engine failures scared me off.

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    Ryan, unless you know something I don't, the XLR-V and STS-V are not particularly bad at all. Far as I know, the N* problems are all fixed in the RWD version and the STS forum is pretty damn quiet.

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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    It's not the motors that particularly bother me with those cars... it's the electronics and the roofs on the XLR's tend to be wonky. I'm not really up for the $3,000+ Nav unit replacements, the expensive struts, and the possibility of one of those nice LED taillights/3rd brake lights dying out 35 seconds after my warranty expires.

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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    Quote Originally Posted by ryannel2003 View Post
    It's not the motors that particularly bother me with those cars... it's the electronics and the roofs on the XLR's tend to be wonky. I'm not really up for the $3,000+ Nav unit replacements, the expensive struts, and the possibility of one of those nice LED taillights/3rd brake lights dying out 35 seconds after my warranty expires.
    Oh, except for the XLR's roof that stuff wouldn't bother me. The Nav unit for the STS is the same as in the Escalade (Supernav) and theyre out on Ebay for 600 bucks now. The one in the XLR is the even older style and those 4-600 too. Same for the LED tail lights for the XLR, DTS, STS and Escalade. They're all out there to buy as wreck take-offs or what not. The roof is the only truly scary potential repair, but that goes for any hard roof convertible really.

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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    Funny how most complaints in this thread are about expensive repairs on expensive cars...usually that stuff goes hand in hand. Buy a $75k car and expect to pay for the maintenance of a $75k car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewsdeville View Post
    Funny how most complaints in this thread are about expensive repairs on expensive cars...usually that stuff goes hand in hand. Buy a $75k car and expect to pay for the maintenance of a $75k car.
    Yes and no. The price of the car is not always commensurate to the cost of repairs, actually. For example, the Escalade runs about $75000.00 now, but underneath it's really no more sophisticated than your average Chevy truck. So later on, when that Escalade depreciates inevitably to 20k, it's not going to be anywhere near as expensive to maintain as the 65k S Type R Ryan pictured above, or the 55k Seville that so many unfortunate souls buy for a song and end up sorely regretting. In addition, to some people money isn't the problem anyway, but rather the constant frustration of being sidelined by frequent repairs on a car they'd rather be driving or worse, rely on on a daily basis. This is why the thread asks which ones even those of us who are willing to take some risk won't touch with a 10 foot pole.

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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    Yeah, but the Escalade is the new Town Car of the luxury world. Fairly primitive and unsophisticated underneath, as you mention. Not that it's any better or worse for it, but it's becoming a rare occurance overall. While there are exceptions, I believe you should generally expect high maintenance costs on an expensive high feature vehicle

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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    None of the cars shown scare me. I'd rather put money into a car I love or always wanted instead of overpaying for a dull, lifeless new car that I really don't like much but has a "warranty". I like what I like. My next car will be a '85-'86 Porsche 928. I really like the styling of the pre '87 better.

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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    Speaking of expensive cars that'll eat me out of the house....


    I saw this today, its just like mine, except this one is a 500.
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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    I'm a recovering over the top irrational car addict. My fears of cars have been pretty much alleviated after owning all the British luxo-barges I've both indulged and tortured myself with. Through my recovery, the simple pleasures of my old 425 Cadillac have sufficiently tickled the automotive pleasure nodes in my brain. There are, however, a few crazy cars that I've wanted to try, despite my better judgement:

    86 Maserati Quattroporte. This car is a masterpiece in my mind, one I have dreamed of owning since I was a kid, proud to know how to pronounce the name of the car in 9th grade social studies class when the lib teacher scornfully read off a list of the biggest gas guzzlers in the U.S.A. back in 1984, Quattroporte was #1 at 7 city/10 highway, Rolls-Royce was next at 8/10 - all of these cars were/are my favorites, the teacher was not. A neighbor of my aunt and uncle had two of these beauties in the early and mid 80's, one was medium brown, the other the richest dark brown I've ever seen - the guy passed us a back road one evening at a million miles an hour and I can still remember the thrill! It would be fun to have one of these, when operating properly, but I predict it would also be a migrane to end all migranes if I actually expected to drive one regularly - which I would.

    --78-85 GM C-body with 5.7 Diesel. I'd love a 79 Fleetwood Brougham with a replacement "Goodwrench" diesel with the updates, even though the updated engines are probably still garbage. These diesels were everywhere when I was in my teens, they didn't take long to die off, however, and there is something about the sounds these cars make that I find to be really, really cool. I can only imagine how they drive, slowly but I wouldn't go so far as to say surely. I want one, but I know it would be a never ending misadventure.

    --92 Mercedes-Benz 600SEL V12. I had a 92 500SEL back in 95, it was soooooooooo fast with its 322 horsepower V8, something I noticed about all the V8 power was that it still had its limits, and I ate the forbidden fruit and drove the same car with V12, it pushed the luxury car limits with incredible speed yet near silence - heaven! I particularly like the clean and bold lines of the 92-94 S-class, I'm not as much of a fan of the 95-99. When the big S-class came out in 92, it was exponentially more expensive than the 91, but that huge new grand S-class had a presence like almost no other car. One of my parents neighbors traded in his light ivory 85 300SD and came rolling in with a brand new 92 500SEL, silver, they were pretty rare to see back in the early 90's in Minnesota, and that was one of the inspiring cars of my youth that helped me to strive to own one myself.

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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bro-Ham View Post

    --78-85 GM C-body with 5.7 Diesel. I'd love a 79 Fleetwood Brougham with a replacement "Goodwrench" diesel with the updates, even though the updated engines are probably still garbage. These diesels were everywhere when I was in my teens, they didn't take long to die off, however, and there is something about the sounds these cars make that I find to be really, really cool. I can only imagine how they drive, slowly but I wouldn't go so far as to say surely. I want one, but I know it would be a never ending misadventure.
    I'm with you on that one, and it would probably work well. Besides the headbolts, the 350 diesel's hardware was actually plenty capable; in fact, probably overkill for the application. Many of the problems stemmed from a combination of poor quality diesel fuel and the lack of a water/fuel seperator. This would eventually trash the injection pump, throwing off the timing, lifting the heads off the block from the extreme cylinder pressure.

    A new engine with the addition of modern fuels and a seperator and you'd probably get yourself one hell of a reliable engine.

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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    Quote Originally Posted by drewsdeville View Post
    I'm with you on that one, and it would probably work well. Besides the headbolts, the 350 diesel's hardware was actually plenty capable; in fact, probably overkill for the application. Many of the problems stemmed from a combination of poor quality diesel fuel and the lack of a water/fuel seperator. This would eventually trash the injection pump, throwing off the timing, lifting the heads off the block from the extreme cylinder pressure.
    A new engine with the addition of modern fuels and a seperator and you'd probably get yourself one hell of a reliable engine.
    By 1983 there was a water filter, I've heard the 83-85 versions were decent. I'd still entertain trying one of the GM 5.7 diesels if it was in just the right car.

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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    Bro-ham, why are you obsessed with these junky ass old diesels? I can't think of a single redeeming quality of the 70's/80's diesels put into passenger cars, other than that the Benz diesels would run FOREVER. The point of a Cadillac is to be smooth and quiet, something that 5.7 Olds diesel was not.


    And as far as diesels go, I'd really like to own a 90's Dodge Cummins diesel truck. It would have to be a manual though, since Chrysler automatics are complete garbage. Those damn Cummins diesel trucks have really held their value though, anything decent with less than 200k miles on it is in the 7-12k range, anything under that price tends to be pretty junky or have a billion miles on it.

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    Re: Cars you'd love to own, but are afraid to buy. (lets be realistic)

    late 90's ETC's are beautiful to me, but the headgasket issues scare me.
    I will eventually own an XLR, but the top scares me on that too

    Any of the 40s-50's-60's chevys or cadillacs would make me REALLY happy to own, BUT, the road to perfection would be a long expensive road im afraid to go down

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