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    Re: The EPA, cars, and E15

    Such a bunch of crap. I think I'll start buying my gas at the local Chevron up the road from my house. Ethanol free gas, and locally/privately owned.

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    All the gas in the 5-county Milwaukee area comes from the same pipeline. It is all mixed with the same 10% corn-based ethanol trucked-in to the centralized distribution center. It's Wisconsin's brilliant solution to EPA findings of poor air quality. 15 years later, the air quality is great, but they won’t change!

    Only the additives vary from station to station. If they go E-15, I will have little choice but to find a bootlegger.

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    The ethanol in the gas around here doesn't seem to really bother the Eldorado, but it makes the valves rattle in the Roadmaster's 350. If I put the ethanol free stuff in it, it quietens down substantially. E15 would probably really mess with it.

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    I hate Ethanol, and don't even get me started on the royal scam known as the "EPA".

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    Re: The EPA, cars, and E15

    Oh the creativity floweth

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    Re: The EPA, cars, and E15

    Quote Originally Posted by EChas3 View Post
    All the gas in the 5-county Milwaukee area comes from the same pipeline. It is all mixed with the same 10% corn-based ethanol trucked-in to the centralized distribution center. It's Wisconsin's brilliant solution to EPA findings of poor air quality. 15 years later, the air quality is great, but they won’t change!

    Only the additives vary from station to station. If they go E-15, I will have little choice but to find a bootlegger.
    Ah, Wisconsin, land of the La Follettes and the Socialist Party! When I was a freshman at U of W Madison it was the law that each restaurant meal had to be served with cheese, and of course it was illegal to sell "colored" marjoran in the state (even the little capsules of yellow food coloring used to convert white uncolored marjoran to a more "butter like" facsimile were bootlegged in and considered "contraband").

    However, the good news was Memorial Union was the one of two student unions in the country that sold 3.2% beer and the drinking age for consumption of 3.2% beer in Dane County, where the University was located was 18. The availability of 3.2% beer on virtually every street corner probably had a great deal with 2/3 of the freshman class dropping out before the end of the sophomore year!

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    Re: The EPA, cars, and E15

    Any good citizen of Wisconsin has at least a .05 bac at all times. God I've never been to such a haven of drunks as Green Bay, and going to see the Packers play the Vikings. I wouldn't trade that football experience for anything though


    Also, GA ETC, my 91 with the same 350 TBI garbage disposal motor runs great on e10. Weird that yours is that picky, does it sit a lot?

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    When it gets as cold as it does in WI, who can blame the poor SOBs for keeping the firewater close at hand?

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    Also, GA ETC, my 91 with the same 350 TBI garbage disposal motor runs great on e10. Weird that yours is that picky, does it sit a lot?
    No, it gets driven on a daily basis, for the most part. The motor is smooth, has full power (for an L05), and gets good gas mileage. It just has a little valve rattle.

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    Re: The EPA, cars, and E15

    People complain about milage and blame the automakers. It's only gonna get worse.

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    Re: The EPA, cars, and E15

    Hopefully ethanol is on a road to death now that the majority of folks realize that too much green has definite unintended consequences.

    The EPA is not accountable or aware for actual negative effects their imposed mandates are causing.

    In the end the economy will prevail and the environmental conservation will fit in more naturally with time instead of pushed progressive haste.

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    ???????? "The majority of folks" now realize that Obama is nothing more that a "Pitchman in Chief" and you gotta understand he's not going anywhere but up ??

    ...............and do you think, for one skinny minute, that the Democratic Machine will shoot their "ethanol pork" goose that lays the golden eggs ($,$$$,$$$,$$$) ?? The EPA is an entrenched government bureaucracy: no one - but no one - will ever be able to cut back on its power, growth, or mindless control. The EPA, like the IRS, is an infectious plague on the American people.

    Too bad that the workers who supported this country through a depression, world war, foreign police actions, and the subsequent recoveries are relegated to a mere audience for the charlatans, fakirs, fools, jesters, ringleaders and vaudevillians currently in power: the whole Congress, no exceptions.

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    Re: The EPA, cars, and E15

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny kannapo View Post
    Hopefully ethanol is on a road to death now that the majority of folks realize that too much green has definite unintended consequences.

    The EPA is not accountable or aware for actual negative effects their imposed mandates are causing.

    In the end the economy will prevail and the environmental conservation will fit in more naturally with time instead of pushed progressive haste.
    Good news! There are many effective medications to treat delusional thoughts like these. Ask you doctor which one is right for you!

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    Re: The EPA, cars, and E15

    Our capitalistic system will prevail. Voters will dictate that. Food vs ethanol diluted gasoline. Its a no brainer. Corn is an inflated bubble that will burst.

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    Re: The EPA, cars, and E15

    Free Market Capitalism crushed our economy, if it wasn't for all the bailouts, TOO BIG TO FAIL CORP being saved from going under, this nation would be in a real depression at the moment under Capitalistic rules. I think people have forgotten about this.

    Why can't we let the free market take care of itself?? I hear this saying from the right all the time, well because it can get out of control through corruption and lack of regulation, it's that simple. Free Market only goes so far enriching a country, it needs to be seriously guided and controlled to a certain extent to tame any bad situation in the future.

    It's funny how certain people hate big gov, yet cry for help when their SSI checks are being reduced, and their Medicare coverage isn't covering as much as it used too. Lets be real, gov is needed, not in everything, but a lot of people in this country need help somehow or will need help in the future. When your permanently disabled, who's supporting you? The Gov. Unless your rich or put away hundreds of thousands of dollars at a young age, then there's nothing to worry about. In most cases, people haven't saved the kind of money that will allow them to have a better life at an older age.

    This whole ethanol topic has "Suspicion" written all over it.

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