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    Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    It's a long story but I have a meeting with GM executives in about a week. I was invited to the GM Proving Grounds as well as the Detroit Auto Show during the week of "media only" - otherwise I'd have worked on meeting those of you out in Detroit during the main show..

    ANYWAY. The question is: What should GM do going forward?

    I'd like to get as many good answers as possible.. Please speak your mind...

    Thank you!
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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    Moar wagons... moooooaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr.



    But seriously (actually, that was serious...) that's pretty awesome. I demand a copious quantity of photographs from the event.

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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    First and foremost put the emphasis on quality, then on reliability and then on great, attractive exterior and interior designs. GM should become a leader again in styling, if they have to copy someone copy VW/Audi not the next "Bangle-Butted" fad from a mislead maker.

    Each division should be distinctive and have a clearly identified automotive objective and should have a suitable flagship with the parameters of the division's market/performance segment.

    Cadillac should have high quality products suitable to satisfying customers in "executive/luxury" segment. It should also have a product that can capture acceptance and desirability among the world's power elite. Not some hokey frosted truck, but an luxury passenger car that conveys the prestige of the owner or his office.

    Buick should build cars suitable to the upper middle class socially and economically. This lineup should include some perform ace models like the "Wildcats" of the sixties. Buick not market cars meant for middle income folks leave that segment to Chevrolet.

    Chevrolet should have a broad spectrum of vehicles suitable for the various tasks middle class families are called upon to perform, but not to include trucks (leave trucks to GMC).

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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    Wow, your able to meet up with GM executives? How is that possible?

    Anyways, I would love for you to tell then, that they have let down many car enthusiast of the world, people that live in die for Cadillac, and we are watching and waiting for the company to bring out something that catches our eye, because so far GM isn't listening to us car lovers, but more so to what the "Market" thinks is needed.

    Also tell them, to stop acting like executive businessmen for once, and become a fan, tell them to tell the bean counters to go screw themselves, because these bastards are destroying the industry.

    Last thing, bring back the FLEETWOOD! Make it $80,000 for crying out loud, they need something in the higher end bracket for consumers, go above and beyond, show the world that Cadillac is serious. People will buy big cars, look at the 300, it all depends on the design, they can do it, someone just needs to take the risk to make it happen.

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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    "Stop smoking." -- Bad habits are hard to break. Its too easy to run an organization without a long-term vision, without regard for stakeholders in the interest of short-term profitability. I don't know what GM wants to be in 10, 20, or 30 years from now since its been in survival mode for the past decade. "Be really big and profitable!" isn't a vision. A corporate vision is a dream, set in place by leadership, of what an ideal General Motors would be, what it would produce, what it would mean to the public, and how it would function.

    Whatever happened over the last 30 years, study and review those mistakes tirelessly and don't ever do it again.

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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    Assumptions are that the build quality and reliability are there -- which should be a given. As well as appropriate and timely updates of their current offerings.

    CHEVROLET is in pretty good shape:
    -- The trucks need more rear seat legroom, even if bed length has to be cut by a few inches. Just don't take it out of the front, like they did on the Tundra.
    -- A new compact pickup is needed. Think '80s Mazda B2000, only updated but cheap enough to be worth buying.
    -- Screw CAFE -- do not get rid of the Suburban/Tahoe/Avalanche.
    -- The Impala needs to be RWD, and a V8 optional. (Smaller Holden)
    -- A Caprice needs to be added that is bigger, RWD, and a V8 optional. (Larger Holden)
    -- REPLACE THE MONTE CARLO...
    -- The small cars and the sports cars are pretty much where they need to be.

    BUICK/GMC
    (See notes on Chevrolet trucks)
    -- Bring over the large Holden RWD sedan and give it a premium interior and a V8 option.
    -- Make a new Riviera that is NOT that hideous 2 seater. Large, COMFORTABLE 4 seater, short trunk/long hood. Either V8 or 3.6DI powered.

    CADILLAC is about to become a hot mess!
    -- Quit relying on the 18 versions of the CTS to save your bacon.
    -- REPLACE THE NORTHSTAR and make it optional for the XTS. (The concept was gorgeous...however V6 only is FAIL.)
    -- Make a SWB and LWB "Flagship/Sport'ish" sedan, RWD, V8 only (LS powered if necessary), positioned in between the LS and the 7-Series/S-Class. Price it between the Equus and the LS. If you think you're going to get 7 or S money, you're crazed.
    -- Make a Lambda CUV if you want, but not at the expense of the Escalade.
    -- Make a larger coupe that does not bow at the altar of the Infiniti G's rear end -- short trunk, long hood, V8 only, COMFORTABLE 4 seater...a true successor to the Eldorado.

    If you're able to get this ship righted, then we can think of more things for you to do...

    Oh, and give me back my stock that I got screwed out of.
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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    Cadillac needs that $70-90k flagship RIGHT NOW.


    Throw the LSA motor into a reg cab/short box 2wd silverado. Put a lowered sport suspension on it, but make sure you can still use it as a truck, ie it will tow, haul crap, etc. Maybe put it also in a 4 door silverado, since those seem to be all the rage now days so it will actually have a volume seller.

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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    the little features like interior lighting and making them work together, like fan speed and volume reduction for incoming phone calls. more of that

    "integration"

    rented an Escalade on two occasions and it was those little things that made me go wow.

    //also ask about the flying cars please thanks :-D

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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    When they find a problem (like the Northstar head gaskets) for God sake jump on it and fix it ASAP. Lack of reliability (or even the perception of it) does more (and lasting) damage than any competitor could possibly hope for with advertising.

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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    Don't make me buy a truck (SUV) to get a RWD or AWD V8!

    I like big cars. A lot of Americans do.

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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    I love my 2005 CTS-V. The new CTS-V is very sweet, but please offer up a second trim level with an LS3 and no supercharger, while many of us love all the power you can offer up it's just not for all. The Northstar has no low end, please put it out of it's misery and give us pushrods. I have yet to hear complaints about the LS1, LS2, LS3 or LS6 (okay, the LS6 is a gas hog).

    CTS wagon. Super good looking, but my wife isn't going to drive it, if you want me to drive it, it needs a pushrod V8. V6 is "for the woman".

    Speaking of women. My wife needs a new minivan, the Olds Silo Premiere is getting tired. If you insist on using the Northstar, a minivan would be an excellent location for it. The next minivan I buy is going to be a top of the line Chrysler since GM doesn't make one. Please don't make me suffer in some POS Chrysler minivan. It's bad enough that I have to ride around in a Minivan, if it was a Cadillac I wouldn't have to tint the windows!

    I don't make my Northstar comments lightly, there have been a few in the family. Currently my Dad has an XLR. Lets face it, I could barely get out off the line ahead of a pool guy in an F150. I suppose the lack of low end is okay for my 70 (something) Pop's, but not me!

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    N* engine is at it's end of life... they're not going to be considering it for new/future projects
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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
    When they find a problem (like the Northstar head gaskets) for God sake jump on it and fix it ASAP. Lack of reliability (or even the perception of it) does more (and lasting) damage than any competitor could possibly hope for with advertising.
    This is probably the single most important quote in this entire thread so far.

    Next...

    Buick:
    Quit pussfooting around with the Buick Regal and put a proper powerplant in there.

    Cadillac:
    Throw the Northstar engineering schematics in the trash and burn them... hell throw any residual engineers from that project in the pile too... Then devote resources ASAP to building a PROPER, RELIABLE all aluminum V8 for your premier luxury brand, then introduce this engine in a PROPER RWD luxury sedan with decent quality, and an appropriate price. Understand that regardless of energy market trends, you can NOT have a luxury brand without a dedicated V8 engine

    That is all.

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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    Yeah, the one thing that is most embarrassing to me is watching Ford drop 4 new engines in its F-150 lineup, with new engines showing up throughout their product line while GM is relying on too few engines with very little in the pipeline...

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    Re: Here's your chance to suggest something directly to GM - don't waste it...

    And we have an entire industry that was left alone by Lincoln. The Town Car is just about done and the MKT is what they're trying to sell us on. GM needs the XTS to work for the limousine industry. A proper trunk, good rear leg room, a reliable drivetrain...

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