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    Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    I started a thread about this subject before but I can't find it and I want to post an updated one.

    I have several "Guinness Book of World Records" from years ago. Before the Internet was common. Looking through the 1991, 1989 and 1984 editions of that book, it has the "Bugatti Royale Type 41" listed as the largest/longest car. Only 6 were built.

    A few things are confusing. For example, from the 1991 edition of the book, it says, "Of all cars produced for use...." "The 1927-'33 Bugatti Royale measures over 22 feet in length..." The 1984 edition says, "Of all cars produced for private road use." What about the stretch Cadillac and Lincoln Limousines? They were built for private road use, too.

    Also, after researching on the web, it looks like that model of Bugatti was 252.0" inches long, exactly 21 feet and not "over 22 feet."

    As some members here know, the 1974-'76 Cadillac Fleetwood Seventy-Five (both the 9-passenger sedan and limousine) were 252.2" long, or two-tenths of one inch longer than the "longest production car," the Bugatti. The 1989 and 1984 editions say the same thing.

    Here are photos to compare... A Bugatti Royale Type 41 and my '76 limousine...




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    Re: Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    Perhaps the Bugatti has the longest wheelbase.

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    Re: Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    The 59 Lincoln Continental Limo had the longest unibody at just shy of 19 feet.

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    I wonder if the measurement you found, or the measurement Guinness used, includes the distance the wheels/tires stick past the front of the Bugatti.

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    Re: Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoistCabbage View Post
    I wonder if the measurement you found, or the measurement Guinness used, includes the distance the wheels/tires stick past the front of the Bugatti.
    Overall length means bumper-to-bumper, the measurement taken at the longest part of the car at each end. Which would include the distance the wheels/tires stick out.

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    Yes, I know what it means, but apparently Guinness or "the web" missed something.

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    Re: Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigm57ict View Post
    Perhaps the Bugatti has the longest wheelbase.
    It may, but "longest car" means overall length, not wheelbase. For example, my '69 Fleetwood Brougham is 228.5" long (19 feet). I don't say it's 11.1 feet long (133" wheelbase) because that is not the overall length. The Guinness editors didn't specify production cars. There were a few super-stretch Cadillac limos built in the '70s and '80s which had a very long wheelbase.

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    Re: Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoistCabbage View Post
    Yes, I know what it means, but apparently Guinness or "the web" missed something.
    Well, the web lists wheelbase at 169.3" and overall length at 252.0".

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    Hmm, sure doesn't look like 6 feet of difference between wheel base and length in the picture.

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    Re: Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoistCabbage View Post
    Hmm, sure doesn't look like 6 feet of difference between wheel base and length in the picture.
    No, it doesn't. Maybe they got the wheelbase wrong, too!

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    Re: Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    I'd give it to the Caddy.

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    Re: Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    Maybe because the 9 passenger Cadillac was done by a coach worker it doesn't count as a production car?

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    Re: Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    Quote Originally Posted by 70eldo View Post
    Maybe because the 9 passenger Cadillac was done by a coach worker it doesn't count as a production car?
    With only 6 of those Bugatti's built, the Fleetwood Seventy-Five was much more of a production car. They were a limited-production car. What wasn't a production car would be the '60s and '70 Lincoln and Imperial Limousines because they were not built by Chrysler or Ford/Lincoln. The Fleetwood Seventy-Fives were built by Cadillac, at Plant 21.

    Remember, too, that in the Guinness Book of World Records, it doesn't specify "production." It says, "Of all cars produced for road use..." I have a feeling that the editors were not car guys! Especially when they said the "Over 22 feet long" for the Bugatti.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 77CDV View Post
    I'd give it to the Caddy.
    It's very close and almost impossible to tell by looking at photos. But, yes, going by what I've researched, the '74-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five does seem to be the longest production car built. When I posted the same topic at another forum, someone mentioned the Mercedes 600 Pullman. Those were 246" long. Then another person said what about those Russian limousines? Well, assuming they were production cars (which I doubt, they seemed to be for government use only), it's close, but they came in at 249.2.

    Incidentally, the '73 Cadillac Fleetwood Seventy-Five was exactly 250" long, the '72 was 248.9" and the '71 was 247.3".

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    Re: Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    The increasing length is due to the 5mph crash logs....er....bumpers.

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    Re: Longest Car: 1974-'76 Fleetwood Seventy-Five or 1927-'33 Bugatti?

    Yes, it's definitely the bumpers/logs.

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