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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    The Biaritz 1990 on deep ocean blue looks classic

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    The Biaritz 1990 on deep ocean blue looks classic. I migrated with one i bought in Alameda, Ca. At every traffic lights cars bump on each other while drivers admires the the Caddy

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    The Biaritz 1990 on deep ocean blue looks classic. I migrated to Botswana, Africa with one i bought in Alameda, Ca. At every traffic lights cars bump on each other while drivers admires the the Caddy

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neil Clarke View Post
    76 and before

    Pre the "little cars" for me
    130 inch wheelbase and beyond
    That's really what this area should be for. Or even older then that because most stuff never changed and engines have their own forums.

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    Well, as I said before this forum is for up to 1984 - I cut it off at that year as that was the last for the Fleetwood Limousines, which were cast iron Cad powered, and, to me, after 84 is more "modern" and belongs in the respective forums.

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    Quote Originally Posted by 77CDV View Post
    I'll go with the AACA's rolling 25 year rule.
    I thought AACA only recognized the term "Full Classic" referring to certain pre-war cars and don not recognize anything else as a "classic".

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    Quote Originally Posted by P.Katson

    I thought AACA only recognized the term "Full Classic" referring to certain pre-war cars and don not recognize anything else as a "classic".
    Check the AACA website. The CCCA is more strict on the definition of a classic as I recall.

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    I believe "classic" in my definition is a car that isn't controlled with a computer and doesn't have fuel injection of the electronic variety. Also pre gas crisis,and no plastic or whetever that stuff is that shatters body filler/extension panels.

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    Cartar I get the feeling you're a scammer.
    Posting links to non related sites and such.
    Bye

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    I felt I had to add my 2c worth, especially as I have an 84 Eldo convertible that I feel is on the cusp of being a 'classic'

    Classic is such an emotive word as it means different things to different people. In the past the Chevrolets, Fords, Buicks, and Plymouths of 30-40 years ago were never meant to become future classics, but some of them have actually earned a spot among the Ferraris and Aston Martins at shows and classic car auctions around the world. Some people would put specific age limits on the definition, and others would say that only special variants, or limited production runs would qualify for classic status. In many cases it matters not that the original was a complete flop - the Edsel comes to mind and the Corvair - now considered classics. In some cases, they become classics because although they were produced in huge numbers, most were crushed and few remain - those few became classics.
    To me a classic is a car that retains its appeal after it is no longer produced and one that stops depreciating in value and either levels off or begins to appreciate over time.

    A few years ago, an 'old' 70's caddy would have been discarded to the dismantlers yard but today it's a collectible classic.

    My 1984 Eldorado Convertible is becoming a classic and to my mind anyway, one of the more desirable classics insomuch as it's a usable vehicle today.

    Many older Cadillacs are no longer practical as everyday vehicles - in some cases they are way too large, parts are harder and harder to find and their fuel consumption means that you have to save hard for that 'Sunday morning drive' My 84 is no bigger than a modern SUV, I can still find most parts (and I'm stock piling them while prices are still low), it gets an honest 27mpg and there were only 3300 ever made. If I had the $$ and the space to store them I'd buy them up at $5k apiece and store them as an investment.

    That's my 2c on what makes a 'classic' but whatever you have, as long as you enjoy the ownership that's what matters.

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    Quote Originally Posted by steveclv View Post
    In many cases it matters not that the original was a complete flop - the Edsel comes to mind and the Corvair - now considered classics.

    That's my 2c on what makes a 'classic' but whatever you have, as long as you enjoy the ownership that's what matters.
    1,786,243 cars, 1,396,792 of them on the first body style alone, hardly seems to be "flop" numbers?
    If that's a flop, there are manufacturers out there who pray their new car will flop like that!

    Otherwise I agree with your points.

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    I didn't mean that the production numbers were a flop - just that the design and failings of the vehicle were flawed and hence most of them were crushed

    Edsel only ran 3 years and only sold 118,287.

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    Steve, I truly have to agree with you.
    While I cut off at 84 I do allow some 85s because it was the last year for that style Eldorado.

    I remember my dad going gaga over a 40s Cad, it was nice, but he couldn't understand why I loved that 76 Eldorado so much. Now, in 2012, drive a 76 to a car show and it has a place!

    Edsel's didn't sell well, but are highly sought after now. Kind of ironic. Corvairs sold well until Nader decided to sell some books and make a name for himself. Funny thing is that the VW and Porsche have similar handling characteristics, but he never picked on Euro cars, just American ones. Talk about bias.

    In any event, those 70s Cads (and many other 70s rides) now command a position of respect at car shows. Lets face it, that 74 Brougham or 76 Eldorado can really command respect. There's nothing like them. I can remember as a kid, at the better restaurants in town, the Mark IV's, and Eldorados got parked in the front and even the mighty 3 pointed star didn't rank that!

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    I'm with you

    The only problem with those 70's Cadillacs is that the space between the white lines and the rows in a 2012 parking lot was never designed with 74 Brougham in mind - it's hard to see my wife driving one to go get the weeks shopping. Fortunately the 84 is way more practical. Actually maybe I should have one of each LOL

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    Re: How do yous guys define "classic"?

    Steve:

    Ha!
    One reason why the post '76 cars make sense!

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