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    Just curious, why does Engleman say that he has the feature (just pull the handle). Could it be related to trim level?

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    Re: Previous STS owner just bought new XTS Platinum and have a quick question

    Quote Originally Posted by carter's_sts View Post
    Just curious, why does Engleman say that he has the feature (just pull the handle). Could it be related to trim level?
    From what I have been able to find out, this feature is not available on any trim level. It may have worked that way in early build cars but it doesn't in any trim level on current builds.

    That said it seems certain that this could easily be added because it would only require a software change. This means the change could be be made with a simple update to CUE. Of course that doesn't mean they (Cadillac) will ever do it, just that it is much more likely than something that would require actual hardware changes like power folding mirrors.

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    Re: Previous STS owner just bought new XTS Platinum and have a quick question

    Quote Originally Posted by sredmyer View Post
    From what I have been able to find out, this feature is not available on any trim level. It may have worked that way in early build cars but it doesn't in any trim level on current builds.

    That said it seems certain that this could easily be added because it would only require a software change. This means the change could be be made with a simple update to CUE. Of course that doesn't mean they (Cadillac) will ever do it, just that it is much more likely than something that would require actual hardware changes like power folding mirrors.

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    My XTS is one of the first Platinum (custom ordered) delivered and it did not/does not have the ability to open the doors merely by the proximity of the fob. I don't believe it was ever an option on the XTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carter's_sts View Post
    Just curious, why does Engleman say that he has the feature (just pull the handle). Could it be related to trim level?
    Perhaps he doesn't lock (or auto lock) his car when he leaves it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkadanec
    The answer is correct, on the XTS you must push the button (once for drivers door, twice for passenger door and again to lock). I also had this feature on both of my SRX's (pull handle for unlock). I actually like the fact that I do not have to open the door, reach in and push the unlock button. You could set it to unlock all doors with the handle pull, but I felt this was a security issue for my wife if she was alone (apparently so did GM).
    That's how my CTS coupe works. I walk up to the car and simply open the door. I have all the audible notifications turned off so I don't know if it unlocks as I get near or if it occurs once I touch the pad (the coupe doesn't have handles). If I were to guess it would be the latter. I have it set where it unlocks both front doors, but it can be set to unlock only the driver side.

    When I leave, I simply close the door and walk away and the doors lock by themselves. I never have to touch the fob for either function.

    I know that the coupe is a bit different since it has the Corvette style doors that are completely electronic. The locks are logic based as opposed to a mechanism. When locking/unlocking using the interior lock button you don't hear the mechanism physically locking/unlocking. All you hear is an electronic beep.

    Not sure how different it is in the XTS.

    I would be surprised if the XTS doesn't have the touch sensitive door handles that would unlock as soon as you grabbed them (provided the fob is on you). My previous car (2006 Acura RL had that.

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    Re: Previous STS owner just bought new XTS Platinum and have a quick question

    Quote Originally Posted by gohawks63 View Post
    That's how my CTS coupe works. I walk up to the car and simply open the door. I have all the audible notifications turned off so I don't know if it unlocks as I get near or if it occurs once I touch the pad (the coupe doesn't have handles). If I were to guess it would be the latter. I have it set where it unlocks both front doors, but it can be set to unlock only the driver side.

    When I leave, I simply close the door and walk away and the doors lock by themselves. I never have to touch the fob for either function.

    I know that the coupe is a bit different since it has the Corvette style doors that are completely electronic. The locks are logic based as opposed to a mechanism. When locking/unlocking using the interior lock button you don't hear the mechanism physically locking/unlocking. All you hear is an electronic beep.

    Not sure how different it is in the XTS.

    I would be surprised if the XTS doesn't have the touch sensitive door handles that would unlock as soon as you grabbed them (provided the fob is on you). My previous car (2006 Acura RL had that.
    The XTS does not have touch sensitive door handles unless you consider pressing a button the handle 'touch sensitive'.

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    Re: Previous STS owner just bought new XTS Platinum and have a quick question

    the xts door handles work very similarly to the cts coupe door handles except they actually have a door handle

    the cts coupe has a switch pad (like the corvettes)
    the xts has the button/switch

    it's pretty simple and basically the same as the STS and CTS passive locking system except it gives you extra control by using the button to be able to hit it twice to unlock the other door

    still no need to touch the remote transmitter (which is the main point of the whole system)
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    Re: Previous STS owner just bought new XTS Platinum and have a quick question

    I think there was a previous post on this. At the time somebody said that their dealer said that the "button" system could not be changed. Hard to believe, huh? If anybody finds out differently, let us know.

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    Re: Previous STS owner just bought new XTS Platinum and have a quick question

    Quote Originally Posted by RippyPartsDept View Post
    the xts door handles work very similarly to the cts coupe door handles except they actually have a door handle

    the cts coupe has a switch pad (like the corvettes)
    the xts has the button/switch

    it's pretty simple and basically the same as the STS and CTS passive locking system except it gives you extra control by using the button to be able to hit it twice to unlock the other door

    still no need to touch the remote transmitter (which is the main point of the whole system)
    {While it certainly seems like this is getting way too much thread time} The XTS is not the same as the STS since with the STS all you need to do to open the door is have the key fob in proximity and then pull on the handle, whereas for the XTS you both need to have the key fob in proximity AND press the button to open the door, then pull on the handle. Pulling on the handle without pressing the button will not open the door as it does with the STS.

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    Re: Previous STS owner just bought new XTS Platinum and have a quick question

    Quote Originally Posted by kipsts View Post
    {While it certainly seems like this is getting way too much thread time} The XTS is not the same as the STS since with the STS all you need to do to open the door is have the key fob in proximity and then pull on the handle, whereas for the XTS you both need to have the key fob in proximity AND press the button to open the door, then pull on the handle. Pulling on the handle without pressing the button will not open the door as it does with the STS.
    Having the button allows for control of both the front door (one push) and the remaining other doors (two pushes). I don't think the proximity fob on the STS opened all the doors, and if it did, it may not have been desireable to have all four unlock at once. For me, I think the button system is preferable.

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    Re: Previous STS owner just bought new XTS Platinum and have a quick question

    My problem with the button is that you have to know if the car is already unlocked or not. Otherwise you could be locking an already unlocked car. Not a problem when you get in the car and drive away, but if you're doing a lot of in and out to load or unload the car, combinded with automatic locking, this could be problematic.

    It's very annoying when my current car (Olds 98) locks just as your pulling the handle (add on alarm).

    I noticed in the owners manual that it is possible to disable auto locking in this situation. Auto locking is re-enabled when you start the car.

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    Re: Previous STS owner just bought new XTS Platinum and have a quick question

    yeah kipsts, i meant more like the CTS coupe system where you still have to push a button to open the door

    and as Rick pointed out the button allows for more control

    and the main point of the passive system is to not have to touch the remote to unlock the doors

    i guess the designers thought something like "well if you have to reach out to the door to pull the handle what's the big deal with pushing the button there first? plus you can get another function out of it with a second push of the button to open all doors"

    i also agree this is probably taken up too much thread time but i guess it's better than arguing about religion or politics
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    I think there should be a law about how car doors open..........just kidding.

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    Re: Previous STS owner just bought new XTS Platinum and have a quick question

    Quote Originally Posted by RicktheRealtor View Post
    Having the button allows for control of both the front door (one push) and the remaining other doors (two pushes). I don't think the proximity fob on the STS opened all the doors, and if it did, it may not have been desireable to have all four unlock at once.
    Correct, you have to open either front door first to open a rear door. One thing I miss from my DeVille is the pop-up trunklid.

    My cousin's late husband lost his right thumb as a boy--guess he would have been SOL with an XTS.
    Actually, he became a surgeon; he had special instruments made for 4 finger use.

    The Fob thing is almost a little too convenient--I'm forgetting about keys sometimes, since I have a battery-powered, push-button house door lock (which is very nice to have). At work, we leave the key in the company pickup during the day, and today I almost walked away with the key in the ignition in the middle of town.

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