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Cadillac XTS Forum Discussion, 17 year Cadillac Driver in an XTS review in Current Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Originally Posted by thebigjimsho DTS was a flagship? Yep. Frankly I'm surprised anyone would have thought the STS was ever ...
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    Re: 17 year Cadillac Driver in an XTS review

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    DTS was a flagship?
    Yep. Frankly I'm surprised anyone would have thought the STS was ever the flagship for Cadillac. It was a shorter sportier Cadillac, certainly never the full sized luxury Sedan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carter's_sts View Post
    They are going to make a bigger CTS. That might be a possibility. And there is still supposed to be a more expensive "Flagship" coming out some day.
    Possibly. I think the codename is LTS. The problem is GM has already made some pretty poor decisions. This new Volt Cadillac being one of the worst I've seen in a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster

    Yep. Frankly I'm surprised anyone would have thought the STS was ever the flagship for Cadillac. It was a shorter sportier Cadillac, certainly never the full sized luxury Sedan.

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    Possibly. I think the codename is LTS. The problem is GM has already made some pretty poor decisions. This new Volt Cadillac being one of the worst I've seen in a while.
    STS was a flagship sedan for Cadillac. 2005 up STS was on the new platform with AWD plus all the modern tech that DTS did not have. DTS was a carryover for the loyal customers who loved them and a great car. But, STS was top of lIne sedan

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    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster

    Yep. Frankly I'm surprised anyone would have thought the STS was ever the flagship for Cadillac. It was a shorter sportier Cadillac, certainly never the full sized luxury Sedan.

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    Possibly. I think the codename is LTS. The problem is GM has already made some pretty poor decisions. This new Volt Cadillac being one of the worst I've seen in a while.
    lulz

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    Re: 17 year Cadillac Driver in an XTS review

    Quote Originally Posted by marktanner View Post
    The most recent Northstar had 275 bhp @6000 RPM and 295 lb/ft of torque @ 4400 RPM. The Platinum had 292 bhp @ 6300 RPM, and 288 lb/ft @ 4500 RPM, more power but less torque. Both have a four speed transmission only. The XTS has 304 bhp @ 6800 RPM, and 264 lb/ft @ 5200 RPM, and has a six speed transmission. The Northstar's advantage was in torque, especially at lower RPMs, all courtesy of it's extra liter of displacement. This makes the V-8 feel faster than the XTS off the line, but the XTS's superior top-end power and six speed transmission will yield quicker 0-60 and quarter mile times than either Northstar, as well as better overall gas mileage.

    The more generous low end torque of the V-8 certainly lends an aura of power and ease to the DTS, but it's lack of top end power and lack of gears available to keep it in the power-band made it's ultimate performance less than stellar. Since few people would drive a DTS at full throttle very often, most owners would not notice it. The XTS, conversely, needs more revs to access it's performance, and it will have to downshift more often and more gears to do it. However, keep your foot in it and the XTS will definitely out-drag the DTS. And it will use less gas while doing it. It will not feel particularly powerful off the line, however.
    The Northstar in the STS has 320 HP. In the last Eldorado it had 300 in the ETC - and it was fast.

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    Re: 17 year Cadillac Driver in an XTS review

    The "real Cadillacs" were gone by 1977. My '77 Eldorado was unbelievable. FWD, 480 cubes, huge display across the dash under the windshield, back seat was more like a couch, hood was two miles long, you brought the trunk lid down to 12 inches and it would close itself, self leveling shocks, etc, and 22 mpg. Knock on my wooden head, I do like the XTS; more than enough power as I'm invariably going 20 mph over before I realize it; regular fuel; quite comfortable; and everything is working right.

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    Re: 17 year Cadillac Driver in an XTS review

    I saw this car in person. It is jaw dropping to say the least.

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