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    Why does XTS have same options as ATS?

    I was just reading up on what will be avilble on the new ATS. Now I really hope the internet and all the editors that were at the auto show have thier facts wrong. It looks like the ATS will have almost all the same features that the XTS will have or at least options. Lane Departure, Adaptive Cruise control, Full color heads up display, CUE system, Front and rear auto braking. Side Blind zone alert, reconfigurable IP cluster, Adaptive headlights and more.

    As a cadillac fan and owner of many Cadillac's I am seeing a problem here. Why may I ask does the ATS have almost every option that a XTS can get? The one thing I did like about the XTS was the decent amount of tech. While not near as much as I would like to see, it was decent. Now I see the lowest Cadillac will get all the same features avaible. Well there just went the one and only reason I did like the XTS. I Understand that alot of these options are now commen place in the luxo market. But shouldn't there be at least several options that the ATS can not get that the XTS can? I hope maybe some of the Cadillac dealers on here can set the record straight and my info is wrong because if it is not, whats the point other then size to even buy a XTS? Might as well spend 10 grand less and get a ATS with all the same features. Man I hope the execs at Cadillac read these posts.

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    Size. And if they read all the posts they'll realize there are a lot of whiney people...

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    Re: Why does XTS have same options as ATS?

    It's not the 'lowest', it's the smallest (ATS). Cadillac is positioning itself for the smaller premium vehicle as it moves into the more challenging times ahead. The Chevy Cruz is build in a similar vein; small car with a lot of the goodies (if you want them). Premium-small; you're going to see more of this in the future.

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    I said the same thing about the DTS. You don't know how disappointed I was to find out that GM's largest flagship car had less options than the Buick I had rented. I believe the biggest should have the most in a line.

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    The DTS was the flagship? Lulz. Maybe 10 years ago when all of Cadillac was relative crap...

    The DTS was nice.

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    Re: Why does XTS have same options as ATS?

    All Cadillac's will have relatively the same feature set. The standard options and size will be the differentiators.

    The ATS is basically taking the CTS's volume up as the CTS grows in size (and basically becomes the new STS). The XTS sorta sits next to the next CTS (as the DTS sorta did to the STS) and thus they will be equipped about the same.

    Also it should be noted that the XTS is basically a LaCrosse and 2014 Impala under the skin (as in electrically and chassis component wise) thus you probably will see a lot of that tech at your Buick and even Chevrolet dealer. CUE and the all digital LCD cluster will more than likely be the only Cadillac exclusives, I mean other than styling and leather options.

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    I haven't checked lately but I believe the 3-Series and 7-Series have a lot of differences other than size alone. Same for the S-Class and all the rest. I know Cadillac wants and NEEDS take make the ATS the best car in its class - but there should also be more options in the biggest car. I'm not sure if they can satisfy both sides of the fence here. I'm sure the true Cadillac flagship (which is not the XTS) will have very impressive options not available in the ATS.
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    Re: Why does XTS have same options as ATS?

    Uh... well, the XTS sunroof is bigger? It's a dual panel sunroof to the ATS's single panel sunroof.

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    Re: Why does XTS have same options as ATS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Cadillac View Post
    I haven't checked lately but I believe the 3-Series and 7-Series have a lot of differences other than size alone. Same for the S-Class and all the rest. I know Cadillac wants and NEEDS take make the ATS the best car in its class - but there should also be more options in the biggest car. I'm not sure if they can satisfy both sides of the fence here. I'm sure the true Cadillac flagship (which is not the XTS) will have very impressive options not available in the ATS.
    XTS and CTS are basically both 5er competitors (the XTS just a larger one, sorta like how BMW has a 540L for China). The XTS as we all know isn't a true 7er competitor, the Omega will be. Omega will have some specific technology though.

    However for BMW, Audi, or Mercedes the 3er\A4\C Klasse share almost all features with the 5er\A6\E Klasse with the exception of "fluff" like "Night Vision" all the big everyday technology is in both cars. In fact a loaded 3er and a loaded 5er have nearly the same feature set on technology. I think there are 3 or maybe 4 things you can get on an F10 you can't get on the new F30 (at least once the F30 goes into full feature mode with the 2013's). I'd assume Audi and Merc do the same. You are right the 7er\A8\S Klasse have unique features.

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    Re: Why does XTS have same options as ATS?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0AT E03 View Post
    XTS and CTS are basically both 5er competitors (the XTS just a larger one, sorta like how BMW has a 540L for China). The XTS as we all know isn't a true 7er competitor, the Omega will be. Omega will have some specific technology though.

    However for BMW, Audi, or Mercedes the 3er\A4\C Klasse share almost all features with the 5er\A6\E Klasse with the exception of "fluff" like "Night Vision" all the big everyday technology is in both cars. In fact a loaded 3er and a loaded 5er have nearly the same feature set on technology. I think there are 3 or maybe 4 things you can get on an F10 you can't get on the new F30 (at least once the F30 goes into full feature mode with the 2013's). I'd assume Audi and Merc do the same. You are right the 7er\A8\S Klasse have unique features.
    The new flagship had better have alot of features and options that no other GM car has. But I see your point its just of odd that a smaller ATS can get all of what the XTS can. Even tho the XTS is not a true flagship its the closet thing Cadillac has to one right now till the Omega platform comes out(which I hope comes in AWD)

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    Re: Why does XTS have same options as ATS?

    i heard the OMEGA platform was killed quietly..
    there is no cadillac flagship in the future..
    http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...ilemma-108393/

    the XTS is p.o.s that is the reason why ATS needs to have all of its funcion...
    i think we should better buy Chrysler 300 instead of Cadillac..that brand is getting boring now with alot of promise..and never become true..they just try to sell us a p.o.s with hight price..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nguyennhatquang
    i heard the OMEGA platform was killed quietly..
    there is no cadillac flagship in the future..
    http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...ilemma-108393/

    the XTS is p.o.s that is the reason why ATS needs to have all of its funcion...
    i think we should better buy Chrysler 300 instead of Cadillac..that brand is getting boring now with alot of promise..and never become true..they just try to sell us a p.o.s with hight price..
    1. Omega is not dead
    2. XTS is a new and improved DTS

    I do like the Chrysler 300 and if I wanted a car that favored performance, I'd take it over the XTS. However, the XTS favors luxury - and when the twin turbo V6 is available, it'll be a better performer than the 300 - making it a complete package. Cadillac is getting there. Give them a little more time. And like I said, Omega is not dead. The Cadillac flagship is still "on".
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    Re: Why does XTS have same options as ATS?

    Quote Originally Posted by nguyennhatquang View Post
    i heard the OMEGA platform was killed quietly..
    there is no cadillac flagship in the future..
    http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...ilemma-108393/

    the XTS is p.o.s that is the reason why ATS needs to have all of its funcion...
    i think we should better buy Chrysler 300 instead of Cadillac..that brand is getting boring now with alot of promise..and never become true..they just try to sell us a p.o.s with hight price..
    Omega is coming, make no bones about it. I'm told when a car gets bid out to suppliers it's hard to cancel it (unless it's a variant) since you have to make tooling payments and certain other payments for preproduction parts and development. BTW. I hear Zeta II comes out in 2014 with the VF Commodore. Somebody told me the next Gen Zeta 3 is in development in North America (not at Holden) because GM has decided that Holden can't engineer a car with low enough warranty numbers (just ask GTO and G8 owners about their suspension designs). It sounds to me as if Zeta 3, Omega, and Alpha will all co-exist as each serves a different purpose.

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    Re: Why does XTS have same options as ATS?

    I do like the Chrysler 300 and if I wanted a car that favored performance, I'd take it over the XTS. However, the XTS favors luxury - and when the twin turbo V6 is available, it'll be a better performer than the 300 - making it a complete package. Cadillac is getting there. Give them a little more time. And like I said, Omega is not dead. The Cadillac flagship is still "on".
    i hope what u said is correct, so we can see a real cadillac.
    I don't think XTS will out perform the 300..
    i saw the 300 excutive series. The leather is so soft, it nearly the same as the Cadillac SLS was sell in here, plus it 1/2 cheaper.
    V8 Hemi, so strong..
    and Specially the SRT8 also 6.4..

    don't think the V6 can have low end torque like V8 and run smooth like V8.
    I ran CTS 3.6 lot of time...Engine so noisy.. It is not smooth as my V and my DTS. if i remember correctly the 3.6 CTS has over 300hp also...

    Hemi V8 now pair with 5 speed auto..but when the XTS release i think it will have 8 speed auto like chrysler promise..so.....???????
    which is better ???

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    GM can't do right in the eyes of some people.

    If they leave options off the checklist on their lower priced cars (like the 1st gen CTS not offering ventilated seats, touchscreen Nav or parking sensors) people rage "You should have the option of getting that stuff if you're willing to pay for it!!! Grrrr!!!". Now they go ahead and offer the high end features on the small car for those who want to pay for it, and the same crowd freaks out again, this time because offering it on the entry level somehow cheapens the tech in their eyes.

    Awesome tech is awesome tech- period. Just because a fully loaded "lesser model" ATS will offer the same features doesn't mean that the tech suddenly became less cool in the XTS. Be happy that Cadillac is serious about making ALL their cars top drawer, unlike Lexus where you have to step up to a $70,000 LS if you want any of the really cool stuff.
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