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Cadillac XTS Forum Discussion, No rear wheel drive,no V8,no V series ! in Current Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Originally Posted by rustybear3 Wow....what a bunch of whinny, self absorbed, paranoid, and utterly pathetic waste of verbiage on a ...
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    Re: No rear wheel drive,no V8,no V series !

    Quote Originally Posted by rustybear3 View Post
    Wow....what a bunch of whinny, self absorbed, paranoid, and utterly pathetic waste of verbiage on a thread ...comments about wasting gas (who cares , you're paying for it) and flaunting your well-to-do lifestyle on your obsession with those who are eco-minded. Guess what! The majority of Cadillac owners buy either the XTS or ATS because they like the styling, performance, economy (ATS), handling, performance, luxury, or any number of reasons other than engine size or how I can show up the next driver. The discussion on the technical attributes pro and con on the XTS was interesting....and should have stayed on point...the political commentaries and narcissistic ramblings ; pathetic!
    You're the whiniest one on here (at least since Feb -- I haven't reread the thread) and the only one taking on other posters. How about dialing it back a little?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hueterm View Post
    You're the whiniest one on here (at least since Feb -- I haven't reread the thread) and the only one taking on other posters. How about dialing it back a little?
    I don't need to reread the thread.

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    Re: No rear wheel drive,no V8,no V series !

    Back on subject:
    No rear wheel drive: 99% of buyers, if blindfolded, would not be able to tell the difference FWD vs RWD. Exceptions: Full throttle accel on uneven pavement would reveal torque steer of FWD; accel from a stop in snow--if you're not moving or just slipping and sliding you have RWD.

    No V8: You can't beat the sound of a V8. But if the power and refinement is there, a V2 would suit me fine. (And yes, I'm disappointed in the powertrain in the XTS, more because it's not Cadillac unique than because of its supposed lack of power.)

    No V: The XTS, like the DTS, was never intended to be a sports car. Buy the CTS if you must have a V.

    Get over it......

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    Re: No rear wheel drive,no V8,no V series !

    Quote Originally Posted by TulsaVic View Post
    Back on subject:
    No rear wheel drive: 99% of buyers, if blindfolded, would not be able to tell the difference FWD vs RWD. Exceptions: Full throttle accel on uneven pavement would reveal torque steer of FWD; accel from a stop in snow--if you're not moving or just slipping and sliding you have RWD.

    No V8: You can't beat the sound of a V8. But if the power and refinement is there, a V2 would suit me fine. (And yes, I'm disappointed in the powertrain in the XTS, more because it's not Cadillac unique than because of its supposed lack of power.)

    No V: The XTS, like the DTS, was never intended to be a sports car. Buy the CTS if you must have a V.

    Get over it......
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    Re: No rear wheel drive,no V8,no V series !

    Torque steer is barely noticable in the XTS ... you could compare the awd version for comparison
    nothing at all like your (and my) FWD northstars
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    I don't have the XTS, but when I got my STS-V I could not believe how I had forgotten how smooth and easy the steering is with a RWD car compared with FWD or AWD. So I don't agree that its not noticeable.

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    Re: No rear wheel drive,no V8,no V series !

    Best of both worlds, XTS AWD, and CTSV-Coupe.

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    Re: No rear wheel drive,no V8,no V series !

    Quote Originally Posted by rustybear3 View Post
    I don't need to reread the thread.

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    and I suggest you dial it back on editing a member's reply on an accusation you made...I've never "taken on" posters or whine as you call it.

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    Re: No rear wheel drive,no V8,no V series !

    Quote Originally Posted by rustybear3 View Post
    and I suggest you dial it back on editing a member's reply on an accusation you made...I've never "taken on" posters or whine as you call it.
    Your original rant (still in my quote above) speaks for itself. People are free to complain about the car, what they think it should be, and their frustration with why it isn't. It's not your place to start attacking other posters about their opinion of the vehicle.

    I asked you to back off, and you didn't -- so you got edited. And then yet again, you don't leave it alone...

    End of discussion. This. Stops. Now.
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    You're right, that's awesome.

    Quote Originally Posted by BreakThrough View Post
    Best of both worlds, XTS AWD, and CTSV-Coupe.

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    I understand both sides of the argument....to a point.
    But i think its sad that you cant get a v8 in a cadillac (non-v).
    Absolutely sad....what has happened to cadillac?
    And to argue the point that the xts v6 has the same amount of power as the dts n* is useless. If the current xts had an available v8 (like it should)-it would probably be in the likes of 375 hp or so. And it would be a better,more satisfiying ride. And to argue against that would be silly. At what expense? 5 mpg less? Please.

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    They might update it in the future. If they think the sales will be there even with the gas guzzler tax, they will do it. I'm completely with you on the V8 thing, but they have to balance what will sell and what the government requires now, which is better mileage.

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    Re: No rear wheel drive,no V8,no V series !

    Quote Originally Posted by 5.0 lsc View Post
    I understand both sides of the argument....to a point.
    But i think its sad that you cant get a v8 in a cadillac (non-v).
    Absolutely sad....what has happened to cadillac?
    And to argue the point that the xts v6 has the same amount of power as the dts n* is useless. If the current xts had an available v8 (like it should)-it would probably be in the likes of 375 hp or so. And it would be a better,more satisfiying ride. And to argue against that would be silly. At what expense? 5 mpg less? Please.
    dude

    its just about financials

    I am sure GM would build an V8 S class fighter if they thought it would sell
    I have a 2005 STS V8 AWD with every option that had a $68K sticker...I bought it off lease 3.5 years old for less than 1/3 of that price

    All those "loss leader" STS and DTS models that they had to discount heavilly from sticker to sell or heavily subsidize a lease just to move cars do not make a company profitable

    Especially when you see the CTS that is being sold much closer to sticker and not coming back from lease with toilet flush residuals

    The germans( and Lexus) own the over 50K luxury car market now

    Cadillac is playing where it was making money...in entry level luxury($30-45K)



    Warren

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    Quote Originally Posted by carter's_sts View Post
    Rules on the forum say no politics, but it is interesting that other Lux cars (foreign) have V8s and even V12s. But then again they cost 2 or 3 times as much.
    exactly....lol

    and those people are not shopping for a Cadillac

    What I think these posters fail to capture here is the fact that I think they would build V-8, V12's etc if they thought they could actually SELL them

    There have been some serious flops...XLR( total flop)....STS with toilet flush lease residuals and resale values..and DTS rental car fleets

    The CTS( and the Escalade) was what kept the boat floating


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    Very true words Warran. I love my STSs, especially the V, and its fun to have a car that only 2500 were ever made. But there's a reason they only made that many.

    And I got it for a fantastic price used. I would not have paid the 78k new. If money were no object I would probably have a Mercedes CLS 63 AMG. Sorry Caddy.

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    Sorry I spelled your name wrong........stupid phone typing.

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