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Cadillac XTS Forum Discussion, Features, Options and Specs in Current Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Originally Posted by ral1960 I doubt the 3.0T will have 400 hp, but it should have a lot more low ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ral1960 View Post
    I doubt the 3.0T will have 400 hp, but it should have a lot more low end torque than the standard engine. The Ciel has a total of 425 hp from a 3.6T Plus an electric motor.

    I'd like to know why Cadillac is dropping cooled seats for ventilated ones, and why aren't they putting them on the rear seats?

    I'm guessing it's the short life of the cooling units (I'm on my 3rd in 4 years, but the car was 3 years old when I got it). It does make a difference when the car interior is hot from the sun, though there are times when I wish I could turn the cooling off (can't tell any difference in the 3 settings).
    The twin turbo 3.0 (LF3) V6 IS supposed to have over 400 horsepower. Don't go by the Ciel to predict the power of the LF3. I believe GM actually has a four cylinder engine with 1000 horsepower. I do prefer cooled seats over ventilated seats but I'll take what I can get there. Having them in the back would be a nice touch.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    The SRX doesn't perform as well because that's what the public wants. The last gen was too expensive based in the Sigma so they ditched it.

    They knew from day 1 that they were going for the Lexus RX. It didn't need a V8 and it didn't need to be fast. It needed to be a car based crossover, to be comfortable and to be attractive. I wouldn't want V8 type power in that chassis anyway.

    All you who proclaim the "it needs to have a V8" mantra can disappear along with it. It's all in your mind, you dinosaurs. V8s have its purpose. It doesn't need to be in every damn Cadillac offering.
    That's fine but I'm all for options. If I owned Cadillac and I could package the same type of vehicle with a V6 and a version that performs better with a V8 or twin turbo V6, I'd go for it. Kinda like the CTS. That seems to work out pretty nicely.
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    All you who proclaim the "it needs to have a V8" mantra can disappear along with it. It's all in your mind, you dinosaurs. V8s have its purpose. It doesn't need to be in every damn Cadillac offering.
    So says the "dinosaur" who has a 556 HP V8 sitting in his garage, next to a 4?? HP V8 in need of some...work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RippyPartsDept View Post
    i think the theory goes that if you're cooling the cabin then ventilating the seats will be the same as cooled seats ... also some people probably (literally) froze their butts off and complained

    this is probably a happy medium between what they were getting from customer feedback and the cost of parts
    Mine seems to be as cool on the low setting as it is on high.

    I've never tried ventilated, but it's definitely a step backward. Few brands offer cooled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hueterm

    So says the "dinosaur" who has a 556 HP V8 sitting in his garage, next to a 4?? HP V8 in need of some...work...
    And if the ATS-V has a beastly TTV6 and smokes the segment, that will be awesome to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    The SRX doesn't perform as well because that's what the public wants. The last gen was too expensive based in the Sigma so they ditched it.

    They knew from day 1 that they were going for the Lexus RX. It didn't need a V8 and it didn't need to be fast. It needed to be a car based crossover, to be comfortable and to be attractive. I wouldn't want V8 type power in that chassis anyway.

    All you who proclaim the "it needs to have a V8" mantra can disappear along with it. It's all in your mind, you dinosaurs. V8s have its purpose. It doesn't need to be in every damn Cadillac offering.
    Thank-you. Jesus, the 7 series and S-class get along just fine with 6 bangers, infact, that's mostly what they sell with! The only standard V8 full-sized flagship sedan is the A8, and that's because
    1) the 4.2 FSI is old as dirt so costs are fantasticly cheap and it's tuned well enough that it can manage 28mpg hwy.
    2) you don't have the engine choice like you do with the others, it's the V8 or the W12. That's it.
    3) the 3.0TFSI wasen't mature enough to go into an A8-- and thank god it didn't considering the problems it's had in the S4 and A6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hueterm View Post
    So says the "dinosaur" who has a 556 HP V8 sitting in his garage, next to a 4?? HP V8 in need of some...work...
    Oh, and that's a 630hp V8 to you, Mister...


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    Whatev... This isn't teh V forum... Leave your measurements at the door...
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    Re: Features, Options and Specs

    And leave your attitude on the floor. With your mouth.


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    Re: Features, Options and Specs

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigjimsho View Post
    All you who proclaim the "it needs to have a V8" mantra can disappear along with it. It's all in your mind, you dinosaurs. V8s have its purpose. It doesn't need to be in every damn Cadillac offering.
    Hey Big... I never said it needed a V8. I said I wanted a V8. I still do. So do a lot of other people.

    Cadillacs aren't about need. Luxury isn't need. It's want.

    I just don't get it. Why don't they want to make the cars that people want?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EChas3 View Post
    I just don't get it. Why don't they want to make the cars that people want?
    they do... it's just that the group saying that that they want a V8 is much smaller (tiny, in fact) to the masses who don't care what engine it has as long as it's adequate

    when cadillac has fully recovered and has 4 or 5 vehicles selling in good numbers they can then make that flagship vehicle
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    Quote Originally Posted by EChas3 View Post
    Hey Big... I never said it needed a V8. I said I wanted a V8. I still do. So do a lot of other people.

    Cadillacs aren't about need. Luxury isn't need. It's want.

    I just don't get it. Why don't they want to make the cars that people want?
    Cafe. That's why.

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    I'm just saying...

    Chris - There are more potential buyers than they (and you) realize. Look at truck sales. Americans like it big.

    MSeater - Mileage doesn't suffer much and not enough would be built to affect the fleet statistics. Besides, CAFE is wrong. The Federal Government is far too big a part of every part of our society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EChas3
    I'm just saying...

    Chris - There are more potential buyers than they (and you) realize. Look at truck sales. Americans like it big.

    MSeater - Mileage doesn't suffer much and not enough would be built to affect the fleet statistics. Besides, CAFE is wrong. The Federal Government is far too big a part of every part of our society.
    Trucks are exempt. That's why they sell. As for big government, automakers can't ignore it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EChas3

    Hey Big... I never said it needed a V8. I said I wanted a V8. I still do. So do a lot of other people.

    Cadillacs aren't about need. Luxury isn't need. It's want.

    I just don't get it. Why don't they want to make the cars that people want?
    I have a douchebag coalition that insists Cadillac build a V18 2 seat 30ft roadster with a jumpseat. It's what we want. Why doesn't Cadillac listen? Boo...


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    Seems to me there are some people here who need to see the "welcome to the world of gentlemen" ad.....

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