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    Pontiac, saturn and Olds died off because they were not profitable, regardless if they had new product in the pipe that would have done them good (in pontiac and Saturns case) at the time during the chapter 11 and senatoral hearings, they were not profitable and were used a sacraficial lambs to get the much needed loans.

    Cadillac on the other hand, is profitable, and so is GM as a whole right now. I'm not following the logic where they dump a profitable brand. Lincoln is worse off than Cadillac and Ford still thinks it can turn it around and injected 1billion into them.

    as far as the aging product, that's sort of a fact of life in the car-business, you can't have a top-tier product for every market at onc. Also food for thought; the compact executive sedan market are mercedes, BMW and Lexus's highest sellers, and guess who's putting out a new compact to match the new competiton? Cadillac.

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    Re: Features, Options and Specs

    Wonder if they fixed the asinine way the seat exit function works on the DTS. You know, pull the key out, seat moves back, steering wheel up, exit and lock the car with the fob, then unlock the car with the fob and the seat and steering wheel move back to the drive position BEFORE you get in the car.....

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    Re: Features, Options and Specs

    Quote Originally Posted by TulsaVic View Post
    Wonder if they fixed the asinine way the seat exit function works on the DTS. You know, pull the key out, seat moves back, steering wheel up, exit and lock the car with the fob, then unlock the car with the fob and the seat and steering wheel move back to the drive position BEFORE you get in the car.....
    My old Infiniti Q45s did that. It never did occur to me until now that the seat and steering should -stay- in the exit position until you get back and put the key in.

    My Seville seems to stay in the exit position, but I never thought about it.

    Good observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TulsaVic View Post
    Wonder if they fixed the asinine way the seat exit function works on the DTS. You know, pull the key out, seat moves back, steering wheel up, exit and lock the car with the fob, then unlock the car with the fob and the seat and steering wheel move back to the drive position BEFORE you get in the car.....
    It's fixed in the CTS at least. key off door open starts the exit procedure, and doesn't move until the ignition is turned on. I hated the function until I figured out it's really the only way to crawl out of the Recaro's anyway. My door seals are showing evidence of it already.

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    I always keep mine down and back anyway, unless there is someone behind me in the back seat. Never noticed it either, although it is stupid.
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    Re: Features, Options and Specs

    Quote Originally Posted by M5eater View Post
    It's fixed in the CTS at least. key off door open starts the exit procedure, and doesn't move until the ignition is turned on. I hated the function until I figured out it's really the only way to crawl out of the Recaro's anyway. My door seals are showing evidence of it already.
    So on the new DTS the seat and wheel etc move when you use the keyfob? On my '05 the seat and wheel move to the off positions when I pull the key out/open door and then they move back to the drive positions when I stick the key back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNCadillac8898 View Post
    So on the new DTS the seat and wheel etc move when you use the keyfob? On my '05 the seat and wheel move to the off positions when I pull the key out/open door and then they move back to the drive positions when I stick the key back in.
    Note I was referring to the CTS only.

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    Whoops, I meant to quote Tulsa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KNCadillac8898 View Post
    So on the new DTS the seat and wheel etc move when you use the keyfob? On my '05 the seat and wheel move to the off positions when I pull the key out/open door and then they move back to the drive positions when I stick the key back in.
    Don't know about the pre-2006 DTS. But all since 2006 will have the seat and wheel go to the exit position when the key is removed. And, assuming you locked the car, when you go back to unlock the car with the fob, the seat and wheel move back to the drive position before you get in the car. Kind of a stupid setup. I've overcome the shortcoming by just turning off that feature and programming the #2 preset to move the seat/wheel back and up. Hit #2 on exit, and on re-entering the car, hit #1.

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    Ah okay. I don't get why they changed it like that because on my '05 they don't move until you stick the key back in. Makes more sense that way I think.

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    Earlier Cadillacs actually had a choice in the DIC to either move the seats immediately upon the unlock signal from the fob OR to wait until the key was inserted. Either way you chose, the car made the "decision" of which position to go to based on which fob unlocked the car (driver 1 or 2).

    This was one of the biggest sources of frustration for our owners. The wording in the menu where you chose your preference ("key in recall" or "remote recall") made people think the car could differentiate between the actual metal KEYS and decide the memory position based on that, but it couldn't. Most people don't lock the car in the garage, so when they drove the car after their spouse without using the fob to unlock it, the seat went to the wrong place and then they called us, angry because they thought it wasn't working properly (even though it was).

    Cadillac thought they were fixing a problem by simplifying it- it moves before you get in, not smushing you into the wheel if you didn't use the fob to unlock it. Simple, right? The problem is that they simplified it in a manner that removed the convenience of the seat being back on entry.

    They listened to feedback and made another change. Starting in 2011 SRX and flowing across the lineup to the other models, there's now only one choice: memory recall on/off. If it's set to ON, the position changes when you insert the key or push the starter. If OFF, it doesn't move AT ALL until you push the 1 or 2 button on the door.
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    Re: Features, Options and Specs

    Quote Originally Posted by Cadillac Tony View Post
    They listened to feedback and made another change. Starting in 2011 SRX and flowing across the lineup to the other models, there's now only one choice: memory recall on/off. If it's set to ON, the position changes when you insert the key or push the starter. If OFF, it doesn't move AT ALL until you push the 1 or 2 button on the door.
    i think that's the right thing to do... funny you mention this 'feedback' because in another thread a forum member insisted (with two horrible spelling mistakes) that gm never listens to the people who buy their cars http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...ml#post2820021
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    I've posted in a ton of the memory seat threads, and always pass the feedback on to GM at our regional Dealer meetings.
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    Re: Features, Options and Specs

    Here you go.

    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7004/6...5bc07fe3_o.jpg

    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6...88884676_o.jpg

    I am using links instead of imbedding the photos as the text is small and didn't post large enough to read. The links will take you to a full sized photo of the Specs brochure.

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    Good info 'Guy'; next we need prices.

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