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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

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    I'd rather drive a Town Car.

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    Considering I own the former, and just drove the latter (which I like, mind you) to Chicago and back in a weekend -- comparing the two is crazy, and shows your stubbornness.

    A Magneride DTS rides just as smoothly, with far better handling and far more power. The (Platinum) interior is on a whole other level, with more legroom (vs. non-L, of course). TC's interior is on par with a base DTS, except for the massaging seats.

    TCs are more rugged and easier to repair -- and have a bigger trunk. (Both critical to livery.) I'll give them that.

    XTS / DTS comparisons are rampant, and will be at least until the car is released. But unless it's an L and used as a limo -- DTS far outpaces TC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hueterm
    Considering I own the former, and just drove the latter (which I like, mind you) to Chicago and back in a weekend -- comparing the two is crazy, and shows your stubbornness.

    A Magneride DTS rides just as smoothly, with far better handling and far more power. The (Platinum) interior is on a whole other level, with more legroom (vs. non-L, of course). TC's interior is on par with a base DTS, except for the massaging seats.

    TCs are more rugged and easier to repair -- and have a bigger trunk. (Both critical to livery.) I'll give them that.

    XTS / DTS comparisons are rampant, and will be at least until the car is released. But unless it's an L and used as a limo -- DTS far outpaces TC.

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    While I don't love the ride of my '11 like my super awesome '04, its MUCH better in an L. I'm guessing you were in a shortie. The L is more composed, glides more and tracks better.

    As for the interior, I never get too concerned with that. The TC interior is largely unchanged from '98, so I'm just used to it.

    As for the DTS, I HATE the front seats. Being a big guy, I sit on them more than in them and there is a big gap from seat edge to door. While I am set in the TC, my left leg angles out to brace myself in the DTS. After about 6-8 hours in a DTS, I am ready to stab people in the face because of the hip pain. I live in my Town Car. Never a problem.

    Then there is the way the DTS drives. It sucks. That much power and steering through the front wheels is too much. Even in a detuned model, I hate it. Nothing like hitting a rise in the highway and feeling your power and steering wheels get light and unresponsive. It's why I would only get an XTS in AWD...

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    Considering its sheer size, I was rather impressed with the DTS handling. It certainly showed its size when pushed, but just like my Enclave, if I planned my moves in advance, it held its line.

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    Then you drove it only on the flat streets of Chicago. Get the front end light, and its lights out...

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    It doesn't really matter if you hate it or not.

    But, have you just driven a rental, or have you driven one with Magneride? The front end of mine has never gotten light. I have taken twisty rural highways at well over 50 mph and get very little body roll nor understeer. I will say it has considerable torque steer, but if you expect it, it's no big deal.

    It's not your V, but I don't want that.

    Oh, and if you're complaining about the DTS' seats vs. your size, how then can you fit in your V's Recaros??!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hueterm
    It doesn't really matter if you hate it or not.

    But, have you just driven a rental, or have you driven one with Magneride? The front end of mine has never gotten light. I have taken twisty rural highways at well over 50 mph and get very little body roll nor understeer. I will say it has considerable torque steer, but if you expect it, it's no big deal.

    It's not your V, but I don't want that.

    Oh, and if you're complaining about the DTS' seats vs. your size, how then can you fit in your V's Recaros??!
    Because I am locked in with the Recaros. I sit on the DTS seats. And, no, I have not driven a DTS with magnaride. Have you driven an XTS with magnaride? lulz...

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    In fact, one potential problem was with the CTS's flared out center console. But the Recaro seats hold you so well, your knees stay in. Amazing support and comfort...

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    If XTS doesn't handle better than DTS, it will be a colossal fail... I've never criticized its handling. You criticize DTS ' handling all the time, however, yet... don't have the whole picture.
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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    I'll take that as tacit agreement...
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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    Guess everyone's butt is different. Drove my DTS 13 hours, with one break for lunch and gas and another just for gas. Felt like I had only driven 15 minutes. Rented a TownCar and loved the seats for about 10 minutes. After that they felt like 5 inches of foam over a flat piece of plywood. No support whatsoever, whereas the DTS seats literally fit like a glove with full leg, lower and upper back support.

    Didn't like the TC suspension. Great under 40 mph but not well controlled above that. No need to talk about power. The TC was great 0 -30. Passing power? Forgetaboutit. I'll deal with the torquesteer. At least I don't have to take out the beads (rosary) when I pull onto a highway or try to pass on a two lane road.

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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    I still admire the DTS styling everytime I see one. which is pretty much every drive. Usually a couple of them. I saw one today with a half cloth top on it, and it didn't look bad. Not my taste, but it works on the DTS. I didn't really feel anything when I looked at the XTS, but it was still a nice looking car. I doubt I will ever drive one.

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    If you ever see my DTS, you can drive it. If TBJS is there, his ass is in the back...
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