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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    today i drove the Chrysler 300C..this is the first time i drive a Chrysler which before i think it can't compare with Cadillac..
    my friend Chrysler i think it worth every cent he paid for it compare with the CTS..or even the next XTS will come..
    he bought it in USA for 42.000$ and import to vn..it is 2012 model which include V8 RWD..very nice interiol...the leather so soft..
    the car run so smooth and stable..and quiet...

    if Cadillac won't release the good car ....i think no one will buy it...for me i rather stay with the DTS instead of XTS..
    1 : the car need very good looking
    2 : of course it need awesome interiol but the outside much looks good first...and the XTS so urly..

    the best Value in the market now is the Chrysler 300C..
    the Run is very quiet and smooth..lot of performance..very nice interiol..plus the car so big..the rear so large..compare with the tiny CTS...

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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

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    Like this?
    Yup. I prefer the license plate to be in the bumper like on the DTS. It makes for a more impressive trunklid and really highlights the Cadillac emblem.

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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    I got a DTS for a week while my car was in the shop mostly in preparation for the XTS and to see how it compared to my 2005 300. I enjoyed the car but I am honestly lost when it comes to any discussion of the style of the DTS. It is such a bland and boring design that can best be described as 'dated.' I love lots of old Cadillacs and I don't feel the DTS fits into the 'classic' Cadillac style or the new style. It is just a safe and boring design that has stuck around too long.

    You may now proceed to flame away for my horrible words about your car that is the pinnacle of automotive style.

    Edit: I will freely admit that the car is much better looking in person though and I was happy it looked better than pictures do.

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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    It's all a matter of personal taste isn't it? Some think Lady Gaga is bold and hip and ultra stylish. But I'll take Michelle Pfieffer any day over her. Crass and class differ only in one letter....

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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS



    i think Stefani Germanotta was smokin' in college... now she's all spectacle and half reminds me of Marilyn Manson

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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    Quote Originally Posted by HartfordGuy View Post
    Yup. I prefer the license plate to be in the bumper like on the DTS. It makes for a more impressive trunklid and really highlights the Cadillac emblem.
    Love it. I usually don't like the plate in the bumper. It breaks up the lines of the bumper. But in this case, maintaining the smooth decklid is more important and it works.

    I just really like the overall shape. But then, the first gen Infiniti M is still one of my favorite sedans of all time.


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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    gm never does what ford and other car comapies do. listen to the people that actully buy their cars.
    if you notice that the GM parking lot is not filled with a-lot of gm cars. nor do the bigs wigs own gm cars, they all drive benz, RR, and bently.
    GM needs to Look at ford.

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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    Ford's CEO insists that the executives drive the competitions cars... in the interview i saw he was currently driving a lexus

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    gm never does what ford and other car comapies do. listen to the people that actully buy their cars.
    and i think you're totally wrong about that ... what do you have to back up that statement?
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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH View Post
    I love the rear fascia. the vertical portion of the decklid looks like a big slab.
    That's the worst part for me. Looks like a slightly tweaked, spoiler-less Impala.







    Frankly, I find the DTS styling to be UNsophisticated. I lol'd when it was introduced. Lots of plain, flat, uninteresting sheetmetal. There's nothing to catch your attention. It's just a rolling blob that's easy to mistake for a Chevrolet family car - if you even notice it to begin with. That sort of styling might work for the Impala and Camry where it's not much of a concern, but it's unacceptable in todays luxury market.

    The poor little DTS's - they looked so lame in the corner of the dealers lot, hiding behind the stylish, fancy, modern Cadillacs in front of them.

    Good riddance.

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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    For those who don't frequent the Lounge, Drew makes this comparison...all the time (or at least every few days).

    Not that it makes any more sense in here, than it does there, considering the only thing the two vehicles have in common are front wheel drive.

    Size, styling, handling, power, options, interior appointments -- not really anything close.

    But, we'll hear about it again in a few days...back in the Lounge...
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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    Chevy styling has often followed previous Cadillacs for the past few decades. Chevys were called Baby Cadillacs by many people. Not unlike some older Camry and Lexus models.

    As for the current Impalas? I prefered the previous generations rear lamps. Somehow having horizontal rear lamps (and round ones) seems more in line with their heritage. But unfortunately none of the car manufacturers seems too concerned with carrying on styling traits.

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    The impala and dts are as different as two cars sharing a platform can be. Of course they are going to have similar proportions. But that's about it. The impala is a very good car. No doubt. But it is no dts.

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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    Yep, it's no DTS - but it's just as ugly as one!


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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    Quote Originally Posted by rics8 View Post
    gm never does what ford and other car comapies do. listen to the people that actully buy their cars.
    if you notice that the GM parking lot is not filled with a-lot of gm cars. nor do the bigs wigs own gm cars, they all drive benz, RR, and bently.
    GM needs to Look at ford.
    This is one I can comment on as a someone working at the GM tech center. I can't speak for the Ren Cen, but I drive a 2006 Chrysler Pacifica. I have been working at GM since July of last year, we bought the Pacifica used in 2009 and I still owe more than I can trade in my vehicle for, so I will be continuing to own the Pacifica until that changes. Our family also owned a Toyota Yaris which we traded in for a 2 year lease for my wife to drive a Chevy Cruze which she is very happy with.

    Back to the subject at hand. Because I drive a Chrysler Pacifica, I need to park in a non-GM vehicle parking lot. This parking lot is further out towards the main roads past the more convenient parking for GM vehicles. The non-GM parking lot is getting a bit more full because the top floor of the 4 level parking structure gets closed in the winter because of ice, forcing more of the GM vehicles for those who arrive later in the work day to use surface lots - and the GM vehicle surface lots fill up, forcing them out into the non-GM parking. Otherwise, the non-GM lot might have a couple dozen cars parked in it.

    The GM surface lots are pretty full as I walk past them to go to work, and when I ride with another engineer that parked in the parking structure it's full, all with GM vehicles. Using public info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General...chnical_Center there are 16,000 people working at GM... So I think it's pretty fair to say that most people working at the GM Tech Center drive GM vehicles.

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    Re: Introducing the 2013 Cadillac XTS

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyH View Post
    The impala and dts are as different as two cars sharing a platform can be. Of course they are going to have similar proportions. But that's about it. The impala is a very good car. No doubt. But it is no dts.
    I'm not following. They're on entirely different platforms.

    The W-body as we know it dates back to the 80s. The current (well, now former since summer 2011) iteration of the K-body finds its origins in mid 90s Oldsmobile. They were originally developed for entirely different audiences at different price points. Much of the expense and heft of the K-body seems to go to its structure, making the Aurora, 98+ Seville, and late-model Deville and DTS among the stiffest large cars on the road.

    Perhaps I misunderstood what you said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillK View Post
    So I think it's pretty fair to say that most people working at the GM Tech Center drive GM vehicles.
    Sounds like automotive incest. I wish automakers would discourage such dated and pointless parking segregation.

    Alan M came to Ford as the owner of a Lexus LS460.

    Back in the 80s, GM executives drove fleet-maintained Cadillacs and were isolated from the day to day awfulness of cars like the Cavalier, Citation, etc.

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