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09-15-07, 10:34 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Sedan de Ville, CTS | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, Tx | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? Cavender Caddy in San Antonio is moving them. I know nothing about their pricing. | 
10-06-07, 05:29 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? This is a good question. I've never understood why the XLR doesn't sell better than it does. I realize the price of the car has crept up over the years, but considering the quality, look, styling and performance, it's a phenomenal car.
According to the XLR Net, production numbers really took a nosedive last year compared to previous years: http://cadillacforums.com/specs/2007/index.html | 
10-08-07, 04:25 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member | | | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? Based on Production numbers of 1 per hour 8 per shift,They [GM} are not planning on selling many. There sales goal through the end of dec 07, is 2000 cars total WOW!. They produce 1401 Impala's per shift and they run 2,3 shifts per day. So the real question How many is a dealer supposed to get. The only Dog according to inventory dates was the Passion Red ,some dealers sat on that one for 180 days and longer. Color counts. Are they still coming out with the Amiral white edition???? | 
10-08-07, 10:52 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Sedan de Ville, CTS | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Antonio, Tx | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? Quote:
Originally Posted by Vettes This is a good question. I've never understood why the XLR doesn't sell better than it does. I realize the price of the car has crept up over the years, but considering the quality, look, styling and performance, it's a phenomenal car.
According to the XLR Net, production numbers really took a nosedive last year compared to previous years: http://cadillacforums.com/specs/2007/index.html | I love the looks of the XLR, and I am a Caddy fan. I also realize the quality of the Corvette and the XLR--along the same plane.
If I had about $70k to $80k to spend on a car, I am convinced that I would go with a Vette. It has a history of sports car experience, a large following, etc. Somehow, in the back of my mind, I view the XLR as an 'experimental' car. I keep thinking that I would buy the Vette.
On the other hand, someone might be able to convince me otherwise, but I do not have that kind of money so spend on a car.
Both are great cars; both as lookers. | 
10-14-07, 10:28 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? As one who owned a 2006 SSR and sold it with less then 1000 miles I understand why it can be had for $10K off list. It is a nice idea that was poorly pulled off. The interior is too small, the 400 hp car I had with 6 speed at 4700 pounds plus was overweight and under powered. The car has no punch, it needs torque to push you back in the seat. It had a folding hard top that was a work of art, it was cool looking and I could have over looked being cramped, but it had no punch, with no punch there was no or very little fun. I have owned many sporty cars the ones that had a real punch keep my interest and i kept them for a while. I have found cars with zinger motors that quote low zero to 60 times fall short due the the missing torque or seat of pants feel when you punch same. The German's spent years telling us six cylinders were better then a V8, but look today they all are bragging about the torque of their V8's. I bought a new 2004 BMW 6cyl M-3 convert with SMG and the traded it with only 800 miles and 4 weeks for a 2004 Corvette Convert because it was such a dog off the line, with no torque. No Torque with the SMG. I have owned about 8 or 9 Corvettes and love same (the later years best), but now I think I am ready for the Old man's Vette the XLR if I start looking at another 2 seater.
John D Quote:
Originally Posted by magmarot430 GM dealers shoot themselves in the foot everytime. It happend with the 01 z06, 03 SSR, 03 CTS-V, and is now going to happen with the xlr-v, sad stuff. You can now buy a brand new ssr for 10k off sticker go figure.
Erik | | 
10-24-07, 06:01 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): 2004 CTS-V | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gillette, WY Age: 28 | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? Quote:
Originally Posted by magmarot430 GM dealers shoot themselves in the foot everytime. It happend with the 01 z06, 03 SSR, 03 CTS-V, and is now going to happen with the xlr-v, sad stuff. You can now buy a brand new ssr for 10k off sticker go figure.
Erik | There is no such thing as an 03 CTS-V, the first year was 2004...sorry I am bored and felt like correcting someone. 
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10-27-07, 11:13 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): Cadillac CTS V | | | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? I think the XLR is gorgeous, but it is underpowered compared to its real competitors like the Mercedes SL, the base Northstar is well under the SL550 in the HP department and even the V trails the previous and current AMG SL.
Plus how do you justify that a stock Vette will run with the XLR-V for tens of thousands less. Exclusivity and luxury do have their price but Caddy is not there yet. The XLR-V for 70k might attract quite a bit more buyers, or give it well over 500 hp to justify the 100k price tag. I think Caddy might be headed that route, they will probably fit the next CTS-V's LSA Supercharged 6.2 in the next gen XLR-V, let it develop around 600 HP, just below the upcoming Vette ZL-R, now than would be very interesting. | 
12-06-07, 10:37 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member | | | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? They are selling. Please stop this thread. If not just buy yourself a V
and this will stop.The best car to own and to drive. It is soft and comfortable
and nasty as you want it. It unites both worlds of simple drive and radical racing. Beast in tuxedo.
Corvette cannot do that. I owned one. Sold it. Too rough. Only Race.
XLR-V is very exclusive. I love it.
I have not seen another V in two years besides mine.
The are selling. Okay few thousand less than GM wanted to sell them for
but that was the plan to compete with Mercedes SL. They are working
on the plan. Wait until 2012 to see me V. They will outsell all.
Take care.
The Boss | 
12-07-07, 11:53 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? Quote:
Originally Posted by BOSS They are selling...I have not seen another V in two years besides mine. | Make up your mind
I thought the numbers spoke for themselves, that they haven't sold well? IIRC, even the CTS-V's sales dropped off in 07?
I think there are alot of small issues explaining why they haven't sold well. And I know they addressed alot of these issues with the new CTS and its advertising. | 
12-07-07, 09:27 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member | | | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? V are getting sold. I have bought mine brand new 10k below dealer's invoice.
So I got a great car with great price and 0% financing.
I cannot complain.
So the question is if they are selling at MSRP or above MSRP is different then if the dealers are moving these cars at reduced prices.
Only consumers benefit from this deal. Thank you GM. I say that everday.
XLR-V in the new version will be a much world accepted car.
Do you remember the first Corvette. It was garbage and look what GM
is cooking up with ZR1 or Blue Devil what ever is the name this week.
Wait and see. I think the new XLR-V will resemble today's Lamborghini Gallardo. Visually V already has the same outline as Lamborgini.
The goods are cooking up in GM.
Wait and see. Enjoy your ride TODAY.
THE BOSS | 
12-09-07, 05:16 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): Current: '94 STS Past: '93 Eldorado, '98 ETC, '03 CTS | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: MyWorldIsEvil, ButAmericanMade | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? Quote:
Originally Posted by BOSS V are getting sold. I have bought mine brand new 10k below dealer's invoice.
So I got a great car with great price and 0% financing.
I cannot complain.
So the question is if they are selling at MSRP or above MSRP is different then if the dealers are moving these cars at reduced prices.
Only consumers benefit from this deal. Thank you GM. I say that everday.
XLR-V in the new version will be a much world accepted car.
Do you remember the first Corvette. It was garbage and look what GM
is cooking up with ZR1 or Blue Devil what ever is the name this week.
Wait and see. I think the new XLR-V will resemble today's Lamborghini Gallardo. Visually V already has the same outline as Lamborgini.
The goods are cooking up in GM.
Wait and see. Enjoy your ride TODAY.
THE BOSS |  | 
12-09-07, 07:41 PM
|  | <10 poasts, CF newbie Cadillac(s): 2007 CTS-V Thunder Gray w/ Lt Gray interior | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sunny CA. Age: 43 | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? Now that's the car I want.
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12-20-07, 06:16 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 05 Mallett 427 CTS-V | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: SoCal | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? I'm sure it's been asked (but I'm new here).
How come the XLR-V is only 443HP when the STS-V is 469HP? 
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12-30-07, 11:02 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Member | | | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? The reason for horse power difference is because in sts-v the exhaust is more "open".
I really think that XLR-V is underrated with horsepower. Just GM way
of marketing. I think in reality for certain XLR-V the real horsepower are
somewhere from 465 to 485. DO the math. 4.3 sec 0-60mph.
BOSS | 
01-03-08, 04:30 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | Re: Why are they NOT SELLING??????? Quote:
Originally Posted by lunarx I'm sure it's been asked (but I'm new here).
How come the XLR-V is only 443HP when the STS-V is 469HP?  | I believe the difference is due to intake limitations (flattened intake) due to less room in engine compartment of XLRV. The exhaust systems are virtually identical. Both systems have a butterfly valve which opens at 3,000 RPM to further release any back pressure while emitting a beautiful, but subtle v8 roar. When tested on a dyno the xlrv delivered between 356 RWHP and 375 RWHP depending on fuel type (California or other), temperature and dyno manufacturer. The 6 speed auto uses a lot of the crank HP before going to the wheels. The stock intake has an inline sound restrictor to hold down (eliminate supercharger whine). As a result of the type of air filters a screen wire dam is added (I assume in case filter is left out) to prevent the intake of junk. Dramatic gains in RWHP can be achieved by removing these intake restrictions. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | |
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