Why are they NOT SELLING???????

[CTS4Chiefy]

They're selling well here in Washington. Can't keep them on the lots, at least the ones I've been to.

[ewill3rd]

If people want them they will find them. It's not a mass produced car, there aren't going to be that many made. We are allocated 3, we sold 1 the week after it hit our lot for 15K over sticker. I suspect we won't have a problem with the next one.
We have two STS-Vs on our showroom floor. I'd say if any of the three are going to move slowly it will be the STS-V.... from a sales perspective that is!

[ewill3rd]

We got two in yesterday... I think one of them is gone already.
The other one is black with the tan interior.
Not sure how long it will be here.

[badboyusmail]

I'm waiting on my 2006 XLR-V to be delivered next Saturday. I'm very excited but also concerned about many of the problems I've read about.

As for availability I can tell you from my own research that there are plenty of both models available. I found two brand new ones at dealerships where they would take $20,000 off the sticker price (XLR) and my local dealer was willing to discount one by $17,000. My new V has 5,000 miles on it which is fine with me because I wanted to let someone else take the beating instead of me. I have no idea why the re-sale value is so bad.

I drove both models and there are a few obvious differences. I preferred the non V model's interior, lighter steering and the overall ride. However I didn't let that stop me from buying my V model. The heavier steering is understandable with the V's tremendous torque and I expected it to have a stiffer ride.

At first I was leaning very heavily towards the non V model because I didn't think I could justify the much more expensive V, but a test drive of the V changed all that. I have owned both a Lotus Esprit and a Ferrari Boxer
(BB-512) before so I appreciate a fast car, but I never expected the performance I got from my test drive of the V model. It really impressed me and I decided that the V's interior and ride would grow on me.

I do however worry about the issues I read about with the XLR's. I had an All'ante when they first came out and Cadillac ended up taking it back to the Detroit factory where for a month they combed over it to try and learn why it had so many defects. Those kinds of problems over shadow any great looking automobile and its performance. I don't buy them to look at, but instead to drive everyday.

As for opinions including my own here, we all know that opinions are like ass...., everyone has one and they all smell. I say that because had I let all the negative comments I read about the American Iron Horse motorcycle influence me, I would have missed out on one of the best motorcycle I've ever owned.

As they say, time will tell!



Badboy

[Falkolade]

i am pretty sure MOST xlr-v sales are along the lines of scott (from superior caddy) pricing, 87-88000 for a xlr v... I agree gm needs to inform the "average" consumer of what a V series caddy is... most people think i just have an average cts and they do not know what a v entails... but the xlr v is a good start, it just needs to get out there more... but the fact that the regular xlr is being highly discounted almost immediately brings the price of the xlr v way down!!!

[Kadonny]

Originally Posted by davesdeville

I've seen more advertising for the V "under 5" series than ads for any of the euro car companies..

I saw that ad once here in PA and that was a year ago. I have not seen a V ad since.

[Kcryan]

Originally Posted by Dubbed Stealth

How do you figure? Its people perseption like this, that hold Cadillac back.

All of our XLR-V's are pre-sold! 7 of them to be exact we could sell everyone we get today!

Seriously...you cant honestly believe that can you? Its history that holds cadilac back, their current line up is pretty good, not the best looking, but its an improvment for sure.

But the cimmarron, the 8, 6, 4 engine, the catera and so on and so on hold cadillac back. Not to mention the fact that they dont stand behind their cars (see Allante, Catera, and so on and so on).


Cadillac will be fine, but they need to start fixing things right away, and the right way.


I thought the catera was the last big, unsettled screw up for caddy, i was wrong.


I would be buying a CTS-V in the spring if it werent for cadillacs stupidity in the differential.
If they cant designe a new bulletproof one, they should buy back ever CTS-V right now. If they can (and im sure they can) they should make them, and put them in, mandatory recall, regardless of cost, it would enhance their image and help move them out of the hole they've dug themselves, but instead they will just hope that in time people will forget....I for one won't.

[IBMBROKER]

Originally Posted by gothicaleigh

I think Cadillac's problem with the whole V-series lineup is that they are not pushing it enough.
Outside of Cadillac owners, not many yet understand what the badge means.

They need better advertising.

ABSOLUTELY NEED BETTER ADVERTISING!!!!

I have been driving a 2005 C6 Corvette...400 HP. Wanted to trade-in for a 2007 C6 Conv but hesitated due to the soft top. I really wanted a folding hardtop so I start looking at used MB SL55s.

Then I see this used 2006 XLR with 900 miles for around $53000 and start thinking...but 320 HP isn't going to do it but I really like the car so I put a deposit on it and wait for the call to seal the deal. Three days later the dealer calls (over new years eve wknd) and by this time I had done a little research and found a NEW BLACK XLR-V with 443 HP!!!!! OMG, I never new these things came SUPERCHARGED!

I bought it brand new in the mid-70s and even got an extra $2K off using my GM credit card. I've had more thumbs up in a month than in the two years I owned the C6! I hope they keep production down on the V; the depreciation will be a killer but the dealer ate some of it so I am still pretty happy with the whole deal.

So yeah, you gotta advertise these car! I almost made a huge mistake, now I have a car I really look forward to driving every day!

[Kcryan]

The advertising is a problem as well, not only more ads, but better ones as well. BMW's "The Ultimate Driving Machine" Porsche's "Porsche There is no Subustitute" Or the famous "Kills Bugs Fast" magazine ad stick with me, no cadillac ad (excluding the new "Roll" one 60 seccond version which i only like because it has an allante in it) does that.

KC Ryan

[vixapphire]

I think that "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit" is a great tag, and one that could work for awhile if they stick with it. I can't remember what they were using during the last few years' Led Zeppelin ad campaign, but I thought that too was a great way to reintroduce the brand and its new, aggressively styled identity to the public. Add the fact that among Zep fans it's widely known that the bandmembers often said they'd never license their music for commercials and the campaign and cars it represents are even more special as a result. Go back to the Zeppelin concert film of the 1970s and they're getting ferried around in Cadi limo's, so it's only appropriate, somehow, that they'd do their first and apparently only licensing deal with as iconic a brand as they are a group.

But, like I said, if they continue to develop this new "life, liberty..." tag, they may end up with a great winner. At least stateside, everyone knows upon hearing it that Cadillac promises happiness, along with life, liberty, and the thrill of the chase. Very nicely done.

[Lord Cadillac]

Wasn't the last campaign called "Breakthrough"?

[Superior Cadillac]

We had a XLR-V and it did not last 4 hours of me posting the pics on the web. It was sold quick..

[MLV]

Originally Posted by Kcryan

Seriously...you cant honestly believe that can you? Its history that holds cadilac back, their current line up is pretty good, not the best looking, but its an improvment for sure.

But the cimmarron, the 8, 6, 4 engine, the catera and so on and so on hold cadillac back. Not to mention the fact that they dont stand behind their cars (see Allante, Catera, and so on and so on).


Cadillac will be fine, but they need to start fixing things right away, and the right way.


I thought the catera was the last big, unsettled screw up for caddy, i was wrong.


I would be buying a CTS-V in the spring if it werent for cadillacs stupidity in the differential.
If they cant designe a new bulletproof one, they should buy back ever CTS-V right now. If they can (and im sure they can) they should make them, and put them in, mandatory recall, regardless of cost, it would enhance their image and help move them out of the hole they've dug themselves, but instead they will just hope that in time people will forget....I for one won't.

The V series Cadillacs are the best buys in their categories. My '04 CTS-V is on its 3rd differential, all replaced under warranty, and I'll keep it until it is no longer fixable. These cars are fun to drive.

You should probably buy yourself a German car and move on. Why worry about the ones you don't like?

[Kcryan]

Originally Posted by MLV

The V series Cadillacs are the best buys in their categories. My '04 CTS-V is on its 3rd differential, all replaced under warranty, and I'll keep it until it is no longer fixable. These cars are fun to drive.

You should probably buy yourself a German car and move on. Why worry about the ones you don't like?

I will buy myself a german car, already in the hunt. But why worry? because i love cadillac, and think they have the capability to make great cars, but i don't think that they are currently doing that. Once they can make cars that are reliable, fun to drive, and competitive, and ones that they stand behind, ill be back behind the seat of one. Until then ill buy from somone who can fufill those requirements. I also fear that the next cadillac i buy will be a toyota car, not a gm one, but then again, if toyota can make a good car, and gm cannot, I'll buy the toyota.

Also, i do like "life liberty and the pursuit" but A) i dont see it lasting more than 2 years, they need a slogan that for the next 20 years people will know. and B)It limits them again too much to an american market (if they use if overseas) as many people i dont think will get it.

[Kcryan]

Originally Posted by Dubbed Stealth

Wow! If your going to talk the talk at least know the facts! Cadillac rates higher in quality than Bmw and Mercedes who doesnt even break the top ten!


Differential problem..... lol...
show me an actual shelled CTS-V differential! Yes they are noises but we have never seen an actual shelled diff!

I trust those ratings as far as i can throw them, and for the reccord mercedes is crap. Ever since chrysler and them joined, they have been absolutly terrible.

So you're saying that its fine to have a noisy differential on a $50,000+ car?

Keep buying cadillac, I hope people do, that way maybe they'll have come cash to fix their glaring problems. Until then I'll keep laughing as i pass them on the side of the road in my infiniti (which i currently drive) or other well priced, well built, and pretty much problem free car.