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    Question Xlr Advice Needed

    Guys, this is a great site/forum. I've been reading posts on her for a number of months. I am now seeking advice from many of you experienced Xlr owners. I've been eyeing an 08' XLR that has been on sale via Autotrader at the Fidelity Motor Group or approx 2 plus months now. Online, this vehicle is exactly what I've been looking for. An 08' 27k miles selling for $43k plus still under warranty.. My concern is at the fact that this vehicle has been available for more than two months and no one has purchased it. That makes me think something not seen online is wrong with it. I also noticed, via its VIN that it has been sold from auction a few times. Is this typical? I live 600 miles from this vehicle and I would hate to venture out there when there may be obvious signs of trouble from afar.

    What are your thoughts? Ideas? Suggestions?

    Thanks all.

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    Re: Xlr Advice Needed

    The price isn't unreasonable, but I'd try to get them to around 40k. Dealer Bluebook is 45k. A generally good rule of thumb is 1/2 the original sticker price at the four-year mark for a Cadillac. It may be an '08, but it was probably sold in early '07. I can give you an approximate build date if you supply the VIN.

    Speaking of the VIN, run a full CARFAX check on it. Also take the VIN to your local GM dealer and ask them to print out a full service history too. Two months isn't long for a nice car to sit. There are still brand-new 09 XLRs out there! Mine sat for a year before I pounced on it -and that was after checking on it every month. And each month, the price would drop a little more, so it pays to be patient. There are lots of XLRs out there. This is a down economy and not everyone has 43k to drop on a roadster. This is a fun car --not an overly practical one.

    If the Service History doesn't read like a Greek tragedy, have the seller send you fifty shots of the car if they don't have at least that many in their ad. Check for common interior issues like dents in the aluminum-clad console trim. They cost a small fortune. If they have one, ask them to run a Tech 2 scan and photograph the main screen that shows how many DTCs (fault codes) are appearing (if any.) You don't want to travel there and get any surprises.

    The main thing is if in doubt, wait for another. It will surely appear.

    In the meantime, read all the XLR posts here and check the other XLR sites as well. The more you know, the better off you'll be. You can download an '08 XLR owner's manual online too, just to help you get started.

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    Re: Xlr Advice Needed

    Thanks for the reply, CC. I was really concerned about it still being available, but your comment made sense. The VIN is 1G6YV36A685601064. I appreciate info info your experience can produce. Talking them down to $40k with the reasoning you gave me was great, too.

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    Re: Xlr Advice Needed

    I scoped out the vehicle at the seller's website and it looks good. The ebony interior holds up a lot better than the cashmere which looks pretty dingy after a few years if it isn't thoroughly cleaned regularly. It looks like there are some minor dents in the center console forward of the armrest. From the door sticker shot, it's a Feb '08 build. The car is fairly unique color-wise -there were only 198 Alpine White base XLRs built that year. 08 introduced the "pillow" style steering wheel airbag along with a chrome grill and wheels for this edition. The Carfax info is fine, but the real data you need will come from a GM dealer's Service History. If it's good and they supply you with additional pictures, you can start negotiating price. Take a look at Autotrader.com to get an idea of what similar XLRs are selling for. When I bought mine, it was one of the three least expensive XLRs in the US, so I felt like I paid the right amount.

    You're doing your research, which will ultimately pay off when you find the right car, sit in the driver's seat, and press the START button for the first time. I challenge you to wipe the ear-to-ear grin off your face! If you haven't test-driven an XLR, you might try driving one locally to ensure you like the view, seating position, etc. The XLR sits low, like a Vette and you can't see anything past the car ahead of you. They're hard for raised vehicles to see when you're alongside them, so it's a different (very defensive) driving experience.

    Depending on it's service history, you have to consider how much these cars cost to reapir (and it ain't cheap!) This car may not have much of its original warranty left, (commences from the date of sale) so you might consider a GMPP or additional 2-year GM warranty. Most aftermarket warranties do not cover the top, so you have to read the fine print, disregard most of the words that come out of the salesman's mouth. I had one guy adamantly tell me their warranty was totally bumper-to-bumper. Until I showed him the top and most of the vehicle's electronics were not covered, which was buried in the fine print of the contract.

    Good luck!

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    Re: Xlr Advice Needed

    Your information/advice is just priceless. I really appreciate your help!

    I'm glad this particular vehicle seems to be a good one and one of less than 200! Last year, I went to a dealership and sat in one, pushed that button and I surely did have that grin from ear to ear. I was sold on what I wanted from that point on. I intended to test drive it at that time, but it then began to rain and I just did not want to have that much of a risk of test driving a vehicle in this crazy Atlanta traffic in the rain.

    I saw an 05' at a dealership not too far from me, this weekend. I take it if I test drove that vehicle, the feel, view and seat positioning should be similar.

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    Re: Xlr Advice Needed

    The base XLR's handling underwent very minor changes through the years. There was an upgrade to the suspension control system that the 08 will have, but that's about it. One of the first upgrades you might consider is installing a rear sway bar; why that wasn't included on the base XLRs is beyond me. The cost is relatively cheap, (less than $150) and you can install it yourself. It really tightens up the car when cornering, even at lower speeds.

    The very outmoded navigation system is one of the few drawbacks to an otherwise stellar vehicle. Upgrading the infotainment system without a loss of functionality (steering wheel mounted controls/DSCC) is almost impossible.

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    I finally got a reply from Cadillac on the Service History. What do you think?

    05/16/2011
    614756
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    B3420 - Folding Top Cylinder Replacement
    27,655 MI

    05/16/2011
    614756
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    B5490 - Rear Compartment Lid Latch Striker Replacement
    27,655 MI

    05/10/2011
    305341
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    B3446 - Module, Folding Top Controller - Replace
    27,644 MI

    05/10/2011
    305341
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    N4800 - Body Control Module Replacement
    27,644 MI

    04/14/2011
    304405
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    B1790 - Hoses, Nozzles Or Stops, Wiper Front - Repair Or Replace
    25,786 MI

    01/07/2011
    210407
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    H2505 - Electronic Brake and Traction Control Module Replacement
    25,260 MI

    01/30/2010
    286164
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    L1225 - Fuel Tank Fuel Pump Module Replacement - Left Side
    4,884 MI

    01/30/2010
    286164
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    Full Debit - Reversal
    L1225 - Fuel Tank Fuel Pump Module Replacement - Left Side
    4,884 MI

    01/30/2010
    286164
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    L1225 - Fuel Tank Fuel Pump Module Replacement - Left Side
    4,884 MI

    01/18/2010
    285605
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    R4482 - Remote Control Door Lock and Theft Deterrent Transmitter Replacement
    4,581 MI

    12/30/2009
    284686
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    N9588 - Front Side Door Handle Switch - Repl (Both)
    3,140 MI

    12/30/2009
    284686
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    N6632 - Vehicle Entertainment Wiring and/or Connector Repair or Replacement
    3,140 MI

    12/03/2009
    283511
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    N2120 - Switch - Front Side Door Handle - Right - Replace
    1,219 MI

    12/03/2009
    283511
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    R0956 - Driver or Passenger Seat Head Restraint Speaker Replacement
    1,219 MI

    03/20/2009
    320364
    ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction
    N9999 - Electrical Controls - Labor Only - Detailed Comment Required
    103 MI

    02/29/2008
    A01064
    ZPDI----Pre-Delivery Inspection
    Z7000 - Pre-Delivery Inspection - Base Time

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    Re: Xlr Advice Needed

    I'd pass- especially if you plan to use this as a daily driver. RCDLR replaced. Both fuel pumps bad . . . Looks like the rear compartment flooded and eventually took out the Suspension and later, the Folding Top modules. Very common problem. --If the adjacent Folding Top Pump bites it down the road, you're out around $2500. Replacing the BCM isn't trivial. Hydraulic Cylinder, rear pull-down latch . . . too many top and electrical problems with this one. Not much (if any) warranty left -could be a PITA financially to keep running, --especially as parts are becoming harder to find. I can see why it was dumped. The former owner had had enough. If they were minor problems, that would be one thing. This has experienced too many major electrical issues in it's lifetime, causing a former owner to hate it. There will likely be more (problems and owners.)

    Advise you keep searching. You will eventually find a better vehicle. IMHO it's not worth risking your piece of mind on this one. Let someone else fall in love with this high-maintenance super model. Patience has it's rewards. . .

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    You raised some great points. It made a lot of sense. I will pass on this. Now to wait on another White 08' with Ebony interior.

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    Re: Xlr Advice Needed

    I foresee a wonderful XLR in your immediate future. You know what to look out for, which is a major determinant to ensuring you spend your hard-earned money on the car you deserve. May all your dreams come true!

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    Re: Xlr Advice Needed

    Thanks Bud!!!!!

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    Re: Xlr Advice Needed

    I currently have a 06-V, Black on Black..I have had the car for a year and I am thinking of selling. The car has 19K miles and also has a salvage title due to theft recovery and not accident related. There are no known issues with this car and the only part I have replaced is the starter. I bought the car off E-Bay and drove it from San Diego to Dallas. I have priced the car lower due to the title. I have had a few cars and this one checked out before I bought it. I just am thinking I want to go back to my old cars. This is just a toy for me at this time. 30K...title is free and clear. give me a e-mail if you are interesed in pictures, etc. larrystiner@gmail.com thanks

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    Hey friend. I have another one located in WI. D you mind giving the service records a once over?
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    Job Card Date Job Card Number Transaction Type Transaction Adjustment Labour Operation Odometer Reading
    04/20/2011 G51631 ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction Z2080 - ROADSIDE SERVICE (TOWING) 30,000 MI
    04/20/2011 G51422 ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction Z2080 - ROADSIDE SERVICE (TOWING) 27,000 MI
    04/20/2011 01359 ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction N0110 - Battery - One - Replace 30,343 MI
    04/18/2011 G49893 ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction Z2085 - ROADSIDE SERVICE (PREMIUM) 27,000 MI
    03/17/2010 878776 ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction Z2083 - ROADSIDE SERVICE (BATTERY/JUMP START) 22,448 MI
    01/17/2008 230169 ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction B3980 - Folding Top - Align Or Adjust 2,733 MI
    11/13/2007 228945 ZSCT----Service Contracts M0042 - Maintenance Service - Oil and Filter Change 2,105 MI
    11/13/2007 228945 ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction R4490 - Remote Control Door Lock Transmitter Replacement 2,105 MI
    10/15/2007 066358 ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction Z6720 - CADILLAC-COST OF TECH. TO MAKE ROADSIDE SRVC CALLS 1,773 MI
    10/15/2007 066358 ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction N0110 - Battery - One - Replace 1,773 MI
    10/12/2007 Q09140 ZREG----Regular Vehicle Transaction Z2085 - ROADSIDE SERVICE (PREMIUM) 1,200 MI
    06/15/2007 A00103 ZPDI----Pre-Delivery Inspection Z7000 - Pre-Delivery Inspection - Base Time 0 MI

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    Re: Xlr Advice Needed

    This one isn't bad. Obviously it had some battery charging issues. The XLR needs to be kept on life support with a Battery Tender when parked for extended periods -it draws power to the RCDLR (also replaced) 24/7 while waiting for a fob to enter into it's sphere of detection.

    One top adjustment is minor. As long as the car scans free of defects, I would be comfortable with it.

    CC

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