Many of these are getting upgrades in the near future and I will update this thread as they are released, but as of today this is how they stack up in the published times.
Re: Cadillac Vs. America : Modern American V8 Muscle
You may notice that I excluded two other high-profile American cars. One was because it did not use the staple 'american V-8' and the other because it is twice the price of anything else on the list. At another time I will do an American SuperCar comparison (when the XLR-V comes out and will probably include the Mallett CTS-V):
You may notice I dropped one car: Chevrolet Corvette
350hp
There Were No Test Results For This Car Within The Last Year By MT
Almost exactly the same as the results from R&T, so they seem to verify those results... in fact, other than the CTS-V and SVT Cobra swapping places, there was no change in the standings...
Motor Trend's handling numbers (no SkidPad given; not a real big loss though as it is more a test of the rubber grip than the suspension dynamics):
Chevrolet Corvette Z06
60-0 Braking: 105 ft.
Slalom: 70.2 mph
Ford SVT Mustang Cobra
60-0 Braking: 116 ft.
Slalom: 65.4 mph
Cadillac CTS-V
60-0 Braking: 121 ft. (suspiciously, their CTS V6 also does this; typo?)
Slalom: 65.0 mph
Cadillac XLR
60-0 Braking: 114 ft.
Slalom: 64.0 mph
Pontiac GTO
60-0 Braking: 120 ft.
Slalom: 63.5 mph
Chrysler 300C
60-0 Braking: 122 ft.
Slalom: 63.2 mph
Last edited by gothicaleigh; 08-30-04 at 11:12 PM.
Re: Cadillac Vs. America : Modern American V8 Muscle
I like the fact that half of those cars are luxury cars.. Also keep an eye out for Chryslers 300C SRT-8, 425hp. I don't like the fact that all this horsepower is going to make it cost more to have my car faster than them.
Re: Cadillac Vs. America : Modern American V8 Muscle
As the current debate on the forum seems to be CTS-V vs. SRT-8 vs. GTO vs. anything else with 400+hp... I figured it was time to update my muscle car pecking order list. In less than 6 months there have been many additions to the list:
Numbers from Feb 05 Motor Trend in order of performance:
"Muscle car" of course is defined by go, but honestly anyone can drop a monster engine in a car and make it fast. What truly separates modern cars are their handling characteristics. The reason I chose Motor Trend for the comparison is that they have a new Figure Eight test that tests all the driving dynamics (acceleration, cornering, braking).
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (2004 C5)
60-0 Braking: 107ft.
Slalom: 70.2mph
Figure Eight: NA
Average Figure Eight g: NA
Chevrolet Corvette (2005 Z51 C6)
60-0 Braking: 113ft.
Slalom: 68.9mph
Figure Eight: 25.2
Average Figure Eight g: 0.76
Dodge Magnum RT (2005)
60-0 Braking: 129ft.
Slalom: 61.2mph
Figure Eight: 26.9
Average Figure Eight g: 0.65
Chrysler 300C (2005)
60-0 Braking: 133ft.
Slalom: 61.1mph
Figure Eight: 27.8
Average Figure Eight g: 0.62
The list will update again in about another 6 months to include:
Cadillac STS-V (440hp SuperCharged Northstar)
Cadillac XLR-V (440hp SuperCharged Northstar)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (500hp LS7)
Dodge Charger (300 and 425hp Hemi's)
Last edited by gothicaleigh; 01-27-05 at 01:49 PM.
Re: Cadillac Vs. America : Modern American V8 Muscle
One more addition to the "Coming Soon" list:
The Chrysler Firepower! (the exclamation mark is part of the name), if put into production, will be the first Chrysler I have ever really desired. The SRT-8's 6.1L 425hp Hemi V8 in a 2 door coupe whose sheetmetal looks to be an American Aston Martin? Sign me up. This thing is just beautiful.
--Automobile Magazine, May 2004
