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01-14-08, 02:28 AM
|  | I guess I've always liked tank tops... Cadillac(s): None  | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Age: 38 | |  What's Cadillac's answer going to be to this (very big Lincoln)?
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This vehicle is HUGE! Bigger than the Town Car; bigger than the most recent Fleetwood Brougham. This is going to be the roomiest four passenger vehicle on the road besides the Rolls Royce Phantom and a few Bentleys.. They're calling it the Learjet of the road..
I guess we all know what's replacing the Lincoln Town Car now...
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01-14-08, 06:04 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): Cadillac | | | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
Bigger than a Fleetwood Brougham? It's only 200 inches long. Better than a Lincoln Town Car? Please. I don't care how many turbochargers the engine has, it's still a V6. I'm going to sit here and watch the entire luxury car segment drive off a cliff. In the mean time, I'll keep my Town Car. |
01-14-08, 11:22 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Enthusiast Cadillac(s): GM bought back my lemon 2008 CTS | | | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
It may be roomy, but it's downright ugly. |
01-15-08, 05:24 AM
|  | Cadillac Owners Member Cadillac(s): 1998 Cadillac ETC, pearl white | | Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Pflugerville/Austin Texas Age: 21 | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
I agree it really looks like something a 8 year old child would scribble... |
01-15-08, 11:47 AM
| | I guess I've always liked tank tops... Cadillac(s): None | | Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Age: 38 | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
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Originally Posted by Maxb49  Bigger than a Fleetwood Brougham? It's only 200 inches long. Better than a Lincoln Town Car? Please. I don't care how many turbochargers the engine has, it's still a V6. I'm going to sit here and watch the entire luxury car segment drive off a cliff. In the mean time, I'll keep my Town Car. | I should have said, "bigger inside"... It's got more room. Even width. |
01-15-08, 12:15 PM
|  | Super Moderator Cadillac(s): 4.9 STS and stuff. | | Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Louis MO Age: 28 | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
I hope Cadillac's answer to that is dead silence. |
01-15-08, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesda I hope Cadillac's answer to that is dead silence. | Probably more like a muffled cackle... LOL
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01-15-08, 12:45 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 91 Allante, 06 SRX (gone) | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Michigan | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
Check out the MKT's one-piece windshield & glass roof. That certainly won't make it to production. (Any bets on how much it would cost to replace the glass when the windshield gets chipped? $5K?)
One piece I read said that if it goes to production, the 4-seater would be morphed into a 3-row crossover. Ho, hum.
Lincoln (and Ford) seem to be doing a lot with short crossovers and tall cars. ( 60" - 67" tall) This seems to be the sweet spot for easy access and higher sight lines for the driver. All of the Cadillac sedans are in the 57-58" tall range.
Rumor has it that the 415 HP ecoboost engine will be available in the MKS in 2010. Woohoo! |
01-15-08, 05:04 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): Current: '94 STS Past: '93 Eldorado, '98 ETC, '03 CTS | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: MyWorldIsEvil, ButAmericanMade | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
Why would Cadillac respond to that?
Lincoln is well beneath Cadillac anymore. Let Buick handle it. Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxb49 Better than a Lincoln Town Car? Please. I don't care how many turbochargers the engine has, it's still a V6. I'm going to sit here and watch the entire luxury car segment drive off a cliff. In the mean time, I'll keep my Town Car. | Yeah, because it would be hard for a V6 to out-muscle all 235 massive horses that the TownCar's current V8 puts out.  |
01-15-08, 10:43 PM
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Wow, That's even uglier then the $150,000 RR Phantom replica.
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01-20-08, 08:47 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Maggied 2004 CTS V Black Raven cause its faster | | | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
I cant figure Lincoln out. They had a great car in the LS but just didnt have enough interior room. The trunk was also tiny. Then they release the HORRIDLY ugly MKZ to replace the LS segment. The worst rear end on the road. It is a glorified Fusion for Gods sake.
The geniuses at Ford are a little late to the party with the Interceptor concept and the Lincoln MKR, which is a bad ass lookin mofo. They should have made the LS available with the supercharged 8 they were putting into the Jag S Type R. If they had I may still be driving a Lincoln and not the V.
And they wonder why they are going broke. They cant even get a production motor over 300hp without a blower.
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01-20-08, 08:54 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1995 FTS | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dover, DE Age: 26 | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
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Originally Posted by MauiV And they wonder why they are going broke. They cant even get a production motor over 300hp without a blower. | lol and Cadillac has what again? Have you looked at the engines in the V lineup? Hell Cadillac is dumping the V8's and going with V6's and turbo diesels instead. What's the saying about people living in glass houses again?
EDIT: And the LS was not a great car. Nice car, but not great by any means |
01-20-08, 10:44 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Maggied 2004 CTS V Black Raven cause its faster | | | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
Ford has to blow an V8 to get 300.
GM is getting 505 in the LS7 and 400 in the LS6/LS2
The new ZR1? 625+ when the General decides to charge an 8.
I get Fords on the Z plan price and STILL wouldnt buy one at a cut rate. |
01-20-08, 11:01 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1995 FTS | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dover, DE Age: 26 | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
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Originally Posted by MauiV Ford has to blow an V8 to get 300.
GM is getting 505 in the LS7 and 400 in the LS6/LS2
The new ZR1? 625+ when the General decides to charge an 8.
I get Fords on the Z plan price and STILL wouldnt buy one at a cut rate. | Were talking about Lincolns and Cadillacs here. |
01-21-08, 01:45 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Master Cadillac(s): Current: '94 STS Past: '93 Eldorado, '98 ETC, '03 CTS | | Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: MyWorldIsEvil, ButAmericanMade | | | Re: What's Cadillac's answer going to be to THIS (very big Lincoln)?
'04-'07 CTS-V = 400hp/400tq
'06-up STS/SRX/XLR = 320hp/315tq
...and when they do decide to slap forced induction on them:
STS-V = 469hp/439tq
CTS-V = 550+hp/550+tq
What does Lincoln have again? An "impressive" 235hp V8 mated to a two-ton-plus TownCar? That's not even competitive versus the bargain brands. The last V8 Cadillac with power that low was over 15 years ago!
Hell, Cadillac has naturally aspirated V6's that out-perform pretty much anything Lincoln can bring. | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | | 
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