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    How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    How we match up on the streets

    V's versus

    1. Camaro SS
    2. Ws-6's
    3. Terminator Cobras
    4. c5's

    I know a bunch of yopu have run into these on the streets, what were your results?? I went from a 30 roll versus a ws6 a couple nights ago (but I started like 4 cars back....and I seemed to close the gap slightly by about 2 lengths by 100)... However Id really like to know your experiences. I cant wait to run into a c5...or a cobra...or an ss for that matter. Lets here it guys.....


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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    I have raced all four types and won all of them, however they were all stock. Raced a modified M-5 last week and we were dead even. That was on motor as my nitrous system is not connected. Wish I had the extra 150 for the M5 but will have it for next time.

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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    What's a Terminator Cobra? Never heard of that one. Are you talking the blown versions?

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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    your not stock either though right tx
    terminator is just the nickname given to the 01?-04 cobras blown.

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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 04CTSVFLA View Post
    your not stock either though right tx
    terminator is just the nickname given to the 01?-04 cobras blown.
    Terminator's are 2003-04 Cobra's and I'm sorry to say that if you were to race one stock for stock they would rape a CTS-V by a decent amount. Guys have hit low 12's in stock trim with those cars. A SS Camaro would eat a CTS-V as well but a WS6 would be a decent race for a CTS-V

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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by TXSilverV View Post
    I have raced all four types and won all of them, however they were all stock. Raced a modified M-5 last week and we were dead even. That was on motor as my nitrous system is not connected. Wish I had the extra 150 for the M5 but will have it for next time.
    the new M-5?! 500HP? YOU WERE DEAD EVEN, WAS HE RACING YOU? HOW MUCH HP YOU GOT? WHAT YOU GOT DONE TO YOUR CAR?

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    Hey guy you don't kno what your talking about! i raced a SS Carmaro and i eat it =)

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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by 1QUICKV View Post
    Hey guy you don't kno what your talking about! i raced a SS Carmaro and i eat it =)
    Then you beat the driver not the car. Big difference. Camaro SS's with a good driver can get into the 12's

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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    Blackout (I can't remember your real name), you say that a Camaro SS is a bit quicker than the WS6 Trans Am. How come? I thought they were basically the exact same car.

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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    Aren't SS Camaro's and WS6 package TA's basically the same thing?

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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    I always thought they were dam near the same car but over the years of going to the track and talking to owners it seems that the SS seems to be a little bit faster then a WS6. Why that is I dunno

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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    Actually, the SS Camaro has a tad more hp than the WS6 when properly equipped.

    A closer comparison to the SS would be the Trans Am Firehawk. Both the SS and the Firehawk were altered by SLP to their stock form and both produce the greatest HP output on the last 4th gen F bodies.

    The highest stock hp available hp on either an SS or a Firehawk in 2002 was 345, the WS-6 only delivered 325.

    Still, even with the numbers I listed make it a drivers race between the SS and the WS6 or the Firehawk. I think Blackout exaggerated in his original comparison. One car is not (from what I have seen) marketably faster than than the other. Check out my name, I am the Firebird Guy ya know.

    I would love to see a stock to stock run between the SS/Firehawk/WS6 and a stock V. There is no doubt the F bodies are more aerodynamic and they were always rumored to be underrated. That may equalize the two.
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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadonny View Post
    I think Blackout exaggerated in his original comparison.
    I'm just going on what I've seen over the years at the track. My ex gf's dad had a 2001 WS6 T/A and we brought it up the Atco and the best he could get was a 13.2 while a guy he raced against which happened to be a 2000 Camaro SS was running 12.9 all night. So either SS drivers are better then WS6 drivers around here or there is a slight difference (whether it's a wight issue or a hp issue) between the two.

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    Re: How come there arent ever posts concerning.....

    I'm just basing my comments on this comment by you:

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackout View Post
    A SS Camaro would eat a CTS-V as well but a WS6 would be a decent race for a CTS-V
    In my opinion that is clearly not an accurate statement (or an exaggerated statement). You can base your opinion on one set of vehicles you have seen at Atco, that's fine and that SS could have done a 12.9, there are always car exceptions.

    Me owning a 2000 Trans Am Firehawk and being a member of the F body forums for the past 8 years or so I have seen many times for the 4th gen (1998-2002 LS1) cars. Most of the models are almost dead even. Hell, there is only a 10hp difference on most of them. Even though the Trans Am does weigh a bit more (spoiler and ground effects), most stock F body (2000-2002) cars (Trans Am, Formula, SS and even the Z28) are doing the quarter in the mid to low 13's. That puts them dead even with the V. In no way will the average stock SS "eat" a stock V. It's a drivers race.

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