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04-11-07, 02:21 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2004 CTSV  | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego, CA | | | 2003 Bmw M5 E39
I have searched and searched and cannot find anything on the CTSV vs the E39 M5 (not the new new one). Has anyone here raced an E39 M5 or seen a video?
These cars are so well matched in terms of power and weight. The M5 has 3.15s and runs 13.1s stock and sub 5 sec 0-60, low 11s to 100 which is right on par with the V which has 3.73s. The V makes torque sooner and has lower gears. What gives?
Here is an M5 with exhaust and reflash racing an RS4 ( 12.7s ) ..... http://videos.streetfire.net/video/0...4f010d4330.htm Not sure how he pulls that hard....
So what do you guys think? Looks like a drivers race in the 1/4 but what about real world say 20mph-120mph? Someone here must have run into one at some point. I want to know who won! Lets here your thoughts! M5 or V? |
04-11-07, 02:59 PM
| | BLING IS AMERICAN RICE Cadillac(s): '04/'09 CTS-Vs | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Just North of Titletown... | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
From 40-110, I pulled about 1.5 lengths on 1. It was stock vs stock. I knew the owner.
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04-11-07, 03:09 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2004 CTSV | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego, CA | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
wow that seems like a lot! did he know how to drive? I would think it would be pretty even, 1.5 cars is pulling pretty hard .... keep em comin' |
04-11-07, 03:23 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Temporarily None | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bellevue, WA Age: 36 | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
I've only raced one at the wknd drags...but I wasn't stock. I think I beat him by no less than 10 car lengths. The guy was such a tool. |
04-11-07, 03:26 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur | | | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
ive driven one, doesnt seem nearly as powerful (torquey) as the V. |
04-11-07, 03:27 PM
|  | Maggied V = More than just an appliance. Cadillac(s): 2005 CTS-V | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: South Lyon, MI Age: 61 | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
Was that toysnot?
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04-11-07, 03:41 PM
|  | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1995 FTS | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dover, DE Age: 26 | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
stock for stock I would think it would be a drivers race. Once you get past the 1/4 mile though I would think the CTS-V would be able to take it pretty easily. The M series was never about being the fastest in a straight line. They cared more about it's handling then it's acceleration performance |
04-11-07, 03:42 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2004 CTSV | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego, CA | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
Moderators... is it really necessary to move these threads to the versus? Once they are moved no one see them as not many V owners visit that area IMHO! I have an idea, how about all versus that have to do with a CTSV stay in the CTSV department!? 
You guys could at least give them a few days of internet traffic....  |
04-11-07, 03:44 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2004 CTSV | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego, CA | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
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Originally Posted by Blackout  stock for stock I would think it would be a drivers race. Once you get past the 1/4 mile though I would think the CTS-V would be able to take it pretty easily. The M series was never about being the fastest in a straight line. They cared more about it's handling then it's acceleration performance | did you see that video versus the RS4 though? the M5 pulled like crazy... and my understanding is that with higher gears 3.15s (than our 3.73s) the M would favor on top end accelaration no?... |
04-11-07, 05:23 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): Temporarily None | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bellevue, WA Age: 36 | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
I thought the M5 trapped 106mph in the 1/4 and the RS4 about 110mph. Can't see how the M5 would pull anything if these numbers are true...unless the RS4 forgot to downshift. |
04-12-07, 06:17 AM
| | Cadillac Owners Connoisseur Cadillac(s): 1995 FTS | | Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dover, DE Age: 26 | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
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Originally Posted by 2002BlueWS6 did you see that video versus the RS4 though? the M5 pulled like crazy... and my understanding is that with higher gears 3.15s (than our 3.73s) the M would favor on top end accelaration no?... | The RS4 is AWD so AWD vehicles don't have as good of top end due to the power lost through the tranny. I'm sure out of the hole the RS4 probably would beat the M5 but once they got going I'm sure the M5 would be able to catch it but at the same time who cares what a cars top speed is. I don't see too many people racing to see who has the better top end |
04-12-07, 03:31 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): Charger SRT-8 | | Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: San Jose area | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
Back when C&D tested an E39 M5, it ran to 150mph in 30.0 seconds. In comparison, a 300 SRT-8 clocked 30.6 seconds and a C5 6M 30.2 I believe. The M5 has some great top-end power and gearing. After 120mph, it's a 1:1 4th gear for the SRT-8. What about the CTS-V? |
04-14-07, 03:28 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2004 CTSV | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego, CA | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
Yeah the 3.15s on the M5 make me worry a little for 100+. Given the lower gearing of the V and similar power to weight ratios its surprising that they both go 13.1 or so through the quarter. What did the V do 0-150?
My buddy just bought an M5 and it will arrive here in San Diego on Wed. We are going to race them from every which way. Neither of us want to lose. Probably going to start 50-120.... wish me luck! I will post results... |
04-15-07, 08:28 PM
| | BLING IS AMERICAN RICE Cadillac(s): '04/'09 CTS-Vs | | Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Just North of Titletown... | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
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Originally Posted by Blackout stock for stock I would think it would be a drivers race. Once you get past the 1/4 mile though I would think the CTS-V would be able to take it pretty easily. The M series was never about being the fastest in a straight line. They cared more about it's handling then it's acceleration performance | Kinda like the V, no?
Anyway, the guy I raced is an SHO guy and currently owns both. I was actually surprised that I pulled that much. |
06-03-07, 02:56 PM
| | Cadillac Owners Fanatic Cadillac(s): 2004 CTSV | | Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Diego, CA | | | Re: 2003 Bmw M5 E39
Ok guys well I finally found my race. My buddy has had his E39 M5 for a few weeks now and we ran them yesterday four times. First was from 50-140 and then from 20-70 and 30-70 and then off the line. The V pulled everytime. On the 50-140 I had about 2 car lengths and was still pulling away.
Anways thought I would share this. I have been pondering this race for a while now. I figured I would win but didnt realize I would keep pulling even at 130 so Im pretty happy. Ive driven the M5 and its real fast. Anyways... | | Cadillac Discussion Tools | | | 
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