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Cadillac V-Sport Performance Mods Discussion, TRIFECTA presents: LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY2014 in Cadillac CTS V-Sport; Originally Posted by fafnir http://i41.tinypic.com/29kx6k1.jpg images are attached above TRIFECTA presents: Cadillac CTS V-Sport 3.6TT (Twin Turbo) LF3 MY2014 Powertrain ...
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    Question Re: TRIFECTA presents: LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY

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    TRIFECTA presents: Cadillac CTS V-Sport 3.6TT (Twin Turbo) LF3 MY2014 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming


    This release post is a presentation of the software engineering capabilities of TRIFECTA Performance: You're looking at the "fastest Cadillac CTS V-Sport in North America" (as of January 24th 2014). The TRIFECTA Performance Cadillac CTS V-Sport LF3 MY2014 powertrain calibration is an easy to install software performance recalibration with an included flash loader device that will yield gains of +81 ft-lbs and +74 WHP to a completely stock Cadillac CTS V-Sport LF3 MY2014.




    Specifications of the TRIFECTA Performance Cadillac CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY2014 LF3 ECM software reprogramming:

    -Gains of +81 ft-lbs and +74 WHP
    -Powertrain calibration has been tested and validated for various environments, such as cold/heat, elevation, and variations in fuel quality
    -Power feels linear and immediately responsive
    -Retains all GM OE diagnostics and ECM functionality
    -Retains all OE error code reporting and functionality
    -Emissions readiness checks are present; emissions compliant
    -Maintains functionality of ABS and TC systems
    -Knock detection mechanisms and OE engine knock detection sensitivity is retained
    -Return to stock functionality included with flash loader


    Specifications of the TRIFECTA Performance Cadillac CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY2014 Aisin 8-Speed automatic transmission TCM calibration software reprogramming:

    -Supplementary Aisin transmission TCM reprogramming compliments the ECM reprogramming and completes the TRIFECTA Powertrain Calibration: designed to work in unison with the ECM reprogramming for optimized performance
    -Improved shift times in adverse shift patterns
    -Improved shift logic
    -Does not shorten transmission life or increase cooling requirements
    -Retains all OE diagnostics and TCM functionality
    -Retains all OE error code reporting and functionality



    Installation Notes:

    -Estimated installation time of ~20 minutes
    -Premium fuel is strongly recommended, but not required



    Dyno sheet and video:



    http://youtu.be/Fs5uuc2ho28




    LF3 dyno graph (93 octane pump gas) (this vehicle is a 2014 Cadillac CTS V-Sport with a LF3 3.6 Twin Turbo engine) - stock wheels/tires:



    http://i39.tinypic.com/2zjfarp.jpg




    Additional information and availability:

    -Please contact Trifecta Performance: info@trifectaperformance.com or visit WOT-tuning: www.wot-tuning.com for more information
    -This powertrain calibration is available exclusively through Trifecta Performance and WOT-tuning; (as of January 24th 2014): wholesale inquiries are welcome though provided that you are an existing and active Trifecta reseller
    -This powertrain calibration includes a Trifecta powertrain calibration file specific to your vehicle and includes a flash loader device
    -Powertrain calibrations currently exist for North American vehicles only, with more regions to follow
    -Pricing TBA




    When you say "WOT-tuning", do you mean this place?

    http://www.wot-tuning.com/forums/sto...6l-twin-turbo/


    Is WOT-tuning one of your retailers?


    I'm ready to place an order but I've got a few questions:

    1. Does your "return to stock" function work an unlimited amount of times? I would still like to install GM updates if there are any

    2. I like how you are testing on your own test fleet, but does that test fleet include both Premium and Non-premium vehicles? I have a 2014 CTS Vsport Premium, do you have something that is specific to the Premium?

    3. Does your transmission side of the tune still work with all of the modes from the mode selector? Tour, Sport, and Track?

    4. How difficult is the install? Are there computer requirements? I have a macbook from last year running boot camp, will that work with your "flash loader device"?

    5. What happens if the tune loading process fails? Is there some sort of a recovery mode on the flash loader device? I've had a 2011 GT500 where the SCT crashed during the flash and the car was bricked, and I had to tow it to a dealer. Is this even remotely a possibility here?

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    Arrow Updated: TRIFECTA LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport MY2014+

    Quote Originally Posted by Antero View Post
    On a side note, are you able to program in some nice exhaust popping and burble on shifts and engine deceleration?
    Yes, by special request downshift "burbles" can be added. This feature is still in beta development status, and a release date has not yet been announced.


    Quote Originally Posted by Avery323 View Post
    What's your timeline for validation/further testing? Few weeks or a few months?
    Available now with introductory pricing: http://www.wot-tuning.com/forums/sto...6l-twin-turbo/


    Quote Originally Posted by 2jzgte View Post
    The power didn't lay down any earlier rpm wise, indicating they aren't running the turbo clear off the map just yet (maybe close).
    With the TRIFECTA production validated powertrain calibration for the Cadillac CTS V-Sport LF3 MY2014, we are not at the edge of the compressor map.


    Quote Originally Posted by 2jzgte View Post
    Little bit of knock dip just after 5000 rpm, so where know where the threshold is for the car on 93 octane, and that's ok.
    Zero knock on the run the dyno graph is showing. The "dip" you're referencing is where we are reducing power artificially to not overrun the HPFP (high pressure fuel pump). At higher RPM, the HPFP actually recovers somewhat. We will not disclose the actual fuel rail pressures.


    Quote Originally Posted by 2jzgte View Post
    We really need to figure out what to do with intercooling. That intercooler setup looks absolutely terrible and prone to some nasty heat soak.
    We concur with this sentiment. One of our hardware partners should have an improved solution for production release in the next month or so.


    Quote Originally Posted by hedrives View Post
    As for my CTS Vsport, first time I popped the hood I wondered what the heat soak issues will be for us in Texas even at stock boost levels and stock ICs.
    I see vented and domed hoods to clear larger ICs as a thing.
    We have found with a destructive test protocol that the stock heat exchanger assembly as a system is thermally challenged. The liquid to air heat exchanger within the intake manifold is also flow limited. This powertrain platform will benefit from any improvements made in this regard.


    Quote Originally Posted by 2jzgte View Post
    What kind of performance did you note after back to back runs, surely these are best case scenario numbers (which are fantastic btw!)
    The dyno runs posted reflect the best run STOCK vs the average of the runs with the recalibration loaded. The best case scenario numbers are higher.


    Quote Originally Posted by 2jzgte View Post
    I had another question regarding fueling. Where do you suppose you guys are fuel limit wise?
    Quote Originally Posted by hedrives View Post
    Also, as 2jzgte asked, curious about how much fuel delivery the stock setup can support.
    At where you have described as a "dip" in the dyno graph, we are getting close to the limits of the HPFP. Without pulling back power at that airflow/rpm intersection, we will likely overrun the HPFP. However, we feel that with aftermarket turbochargers that flow more air, 500-525 WHP+ should be plausible on the OE HPFP.


    Quote Originally Posted by Perses View Post
    When you say "WOT-tuning", do you mean this place?

    http://www.wot-tuning.com/forums/sto...6l-twin-turbo/
    Yes, the link corresponds with the product order page on WOT-Tuning.com


    Quote Originally Posted by Perses View Post
    Is WOT-tuning one of your retailers?
    WOT-Tuning is a TRIFECTA North American distributor.


    Quote Originally Posted by Perses View Post
    Does your "return to stock" function work an unlimited amount of times? I would still like to install GM updates if there are any
    We do not know the exact answer to this question, however on a test rig that repeats the flash process on a continuous loop, a batch of E92 controllers have not failed after over 2,500 reflashes set on a mixed cycle that includes full rewrites, flash truncation and recovery, and partial rewrites starting from a random sector.


    Quote Originally Posted by Perses View Post
    I like how you are testing on your own test fleet, but does that test fleet include both Premium and Non-premium vehicles? I have a 2014 CTS Vsport Premium, do you have something that is specific to the Premium?
    We have both V-Sport and V-Sport Premium vehicles within the TRIFECTA LF3 test fleet. The powertrain calibrations are not interchangeable between the two vehicle trim levels.


    Quote Originally Posted by Perses View Post
    Does your transmission side of the tune still work with all of the modes from the mode selector? Tour, Sport, and Track?
    Yes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Perses View Post
    How difficult is the install? Are there computer requirements? I have a macbook from last year running boot camp, will that work with your "flash loader device"?
    This powertrain calibration includes a Trifecta powertrain calibration file specific to your vehicle and includes an easy to use flash loader device. Installation should take less than 20 minutes. The 2013 Macbook Pro and 2013 Macbook Air complies with the minimum system requirements for the flash loader device and app. The flash loader app will prompt you if your computer does not meet the minimum system requirements.


    Quote Originally Posted by Perses View Post
    What happens if the tune loading process fails? Is there some sort of a recovery mode on the flash loader device? I've had a 2011 GT500 where the SCT crashed during the flash and the car was bricked, and I had to tow it to a dealer. Is this even remotely a possibility here?
    With every TRIFECTA flash loader mechanism, a comprehensive flash recovery function featureset is included to recover the vehicle in case of a truncated or interrupted flash install. Our recovery feature will recover from any ECM state.


    Quote Originally Posted by Antero View Post
    Cant wait for more info on this.
    Quote Originally Posted by 2jzgte View Post
    This deserves a TON more traffic than it's got right now.
    I'm exceptionally pleased here.
    Quote Originally Posted by hedrives View Post
    Looking forward to what you guys end up with.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Cadillac View Post
    I'm anxiously awaiting more information on this tune...
    Quote Originally Posted by iamliko22 View Post
    Updates????
    Quote Originally Posted by Avery323 View Post
    Killing me. Any news?
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Cadillac View Post
    Otherwise, they'd be all over this discussion.
    Quote Originally Posted by CapnCurt View Post
    Im anxiously wainting for any updates to the release of this tune. My new vsport is hungry!
    Quote Originally Posted by Avery323 View Post

    We would like to thank everyone for their patience and support. TRIFECTA has a policy of development, testing, and validation using vehicles within our test fleet. We do not test using customer vehicles. With an improved power delivery profile from the LF3 engine, we have completed validation and testing on the LF3 powertrain for over 100,000 miles across different environments including high elevation, heat/cold, and adverse fuel quality trials. We are confident in our product delivering consistent and safe increases in performance over the stock power levels.

    The LF3 powertrain platform discovery process has also included a comprehensive discovery process on the Aisin 8-speed transmission and the eLSD system in the Cadillac CTS V-Sport MY2014. The TRIFECTA powertrain recalibration for the MY2014+ Cadillac CTS V-Sport includes a comprehensive program that includes increased power from the LF3 engine, improved shift logic and quicker shifts from the Aisin 8-speed transmission with increased clutch pack engagement pressure settings to compliment the increased power, and an improved eLSD program to allow quicker power bias during acceleration.

    Please contact Trifecta Performance: info@trifectaperformance.com or visit WOT-tuning: www.wot-tuning.com for more information.

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    Re: Updated: TRIFECTA LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport MY2014+

    Quote Originally Posted by TRIFECTA View Post
    Yes, by special request downshift "burbles" can be added. This feature is still in beta development status, and a release date has not yet been announced.
    Trifecta, burbles aside <snark> what is needed to install this tune?
    Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Updated: TRIFECTA LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport MY2014+

    I'll tell you one reason I am afraid of the Trifecta tune.
    I've tried to email those jokers and get no reply for days (still waiting).
    There list of tuners sounds looks like an episode of Fast & Furious and have screen names with lots of XXs and ZZs in them.

    I spoke with a couple of serious Houston speed shops and to D3 and no one made me feel any better.

    Guess I will wait on Hennessey. I know where they are and they answer the phone.
    -frustrated-

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    Arrow Please contact a TRIFECTA resellers for any pricing related questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by hedrives View Post
    Trifecta, burbles aside <snark> what is needed to install this tune?
    Thanks in advance.
    All TRIFECTA powertrain calibrations come with an easy to use flash loader mechanism. In this case the TRIFECTA CTS V-Sport MY2014+ powertrain calibration utilizes a TRIFECTA RED OBD2/USB cable. A computer with an uninterrupted source of power is required for installation, such as a laptop computer running Microsoft Windows 7 or a later operating system.

    For any specific pricing and/or installation related questions, please contact a TRIFECTA reseller. Thank you.

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    Re: Please contact a TRIFECTA resellers for any pricing related questions.

    Just got off an very nice phone call with Mitchell at Trifecta who was kind enough to use his lunch break to call me.
    He totally quelled any issues I had with their tuning and explained how it works.

    I'll be ordering a tune from them later tonight.

    He also apologized for the delay in contacting me.
    Seems they get multiple thousands of emails a week.

    brad in houston.

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    Re: TRIFECTA presents: LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY

    I am very interested in this tuning from trifecta, although I have bigger plans for the car in the future and not just a flash tune. Is it possible to have this software dyno tuned and tweaked as new parts are created and installed?

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    Post Re: TRIFECTA presents: LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY

    Quote Originally Posted by ctsteve View Post
    I am very interested in this tuning from trifecta, although I have bigger plans for the car in the future and not just a flash tune. Is it possible to have this software dyno tuned and tweaked as new parts are created and installed?
    Yes, an individualized calibration can be provided. However, for production validation (read: additional testing and support ratification), a request will need to be sent by the specific part manufacturer.

    The current TRIFECTA production validated MY2014 CTS V-Sport calibration has been validated and tested for 100,000 miles at varying operating conditions such as elevations between sea level and 14,000 feet. The calibration also accounts for discrepancies in vehicle condition and operating conditions such as poor fuel quality, varying performance of the air filter, different tires, and also temperature changes. Subsidiary and auxiliary system performance is also accounted for, such as if the AC will still perform under stressed conditions.

    A "dyno tune" only accounts for the conditions of when the dyno was/is operated. An individualized calibration per specific vehicle part build can be provided, with or without dynoing the vehicle, and for any and all parts or part modification service through the TRIFECTA datalogging featureset included with every TRIFECTA RED flash loader. Please contact TRIFECTA support or www.wot-tuning.com for more information.

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    Smile Re: TRIFECTA presents: LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY

    Quote Originally Posted by ctsteve View Post
    I am very interested in this tuning from trifecta, although I have bigger plans for the car in the future and not just a flash tune. Is it possible to have this software dyno tuned and tweaked as new parts are created and installed?
    We'd be happy to individualize the calibration for whatever parts or mods you've got on the vehicle. The current cal is meant for a stock vehicle and a stock vehicle with an exhaust only, and if you've got parts such as an intake or intake mods done, we'll need to "dial the vehicle in" or as we call it to individualize the calibration based on those mods.

    There is a datalogging tool in the flash loader that every TRIFECTA calibration purchase includes, and we can work with your data correlation such as a wideband reading on the dyno when doing so.

    Please note that there are things and parts that we will refuse service to or charge for additional engineering time for, such as refusing to delete safety equipment functionality or charge additional engineering time for such as a nitrous kit that requires an ECM trigger or an E85 cal for example. Individualization for parts such as an intake or downpipes is usually included with a TRIFECTA product or service purchase.

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    Re: TRIFECTA presents: LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY

    sounds great! Is it possible to turn off the CELs with the tune associated with offroad downpipes? Are there any gains to be had on 93 vs 91 octane with this tune? How about extending the rev limiters, adding a ghost cam, etc?

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    Re: TRIFECTA presents: LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY

    Anybody got this up and running yet? I'm on the verge of pulling the trigger on it.

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    Post Re: TRIFECTA presents: LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY

    Quote Originally Posted by ctsteve View Post
    sounds great! Is it possible to turn off the CELs with the tune associated with offroad downpipes? Are there any gains to be had on 93 vs 91 octane with this tune? How about extending the rev limiters, adding a ghost cam, etc?
    The functionality to bypass specific CELs is already included with the TRIFECTA flash loader. Its in the adjustable options list.

    The TRIFECTA MY2014 CTS V-Sport LF3 calibration is octane adaptive and will support both 91 and 93 octane. Performance will generally increase with higher octane fuels however for any octane fuel rated over 93 octane the current production validated calibration will no longer adapt performance past 93 octane. A low octane specific calibration is also available upon request.

    We can extend the rev limiter if requested through our individualization program. Ghost Cam MKI is not available for the LF3 presently.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tony0007 View Post
    I'm very interested to know what would be considered a typical 0-60 & 1/4 mi improvement in the Trifecta tune vs stock.
    Quote Originally Posted by jc09ctsv View Post
    What kind of 0-60 and 1/4 mile times can we expect
    On the 0-60 times we can consistently match or exceed stock, however depending on conditions a 0.3 second improvement or better is possible.

    One of our customers currently holds "the world's fastest CTS V-Sport" quarter mile record at 12.30@116. Stock vehicle with a TRIFECTA CTS V-Sport powertrain recalibration.

    On one of our CTS V-Sport development platforms, one of our engineers timeslipped at 12.34@116.5 on a stock vehicle that had maybe another 200 lbs of telemetry equipment and instrumentation. Stock CTS V-Sport with a TRIFECTA cal.

    Here is a CTS V-Sport running a 12.41@115.61 with a TRIFECTA cal:


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    Re: TRIFECTA presents: LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY

    Quote Originally Posted by joex1 View Post
    Anybody got this up and running yet? I'm on the verge of pulling the trigger on it.
    Joe, its good. Pull the trigger.

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    Purchased the Trifecta tune last weekend. car is running amazing. I'm still feeling her out, but feels great. Raced my friend who has a 1986 Grand National, running low 12's and I blew him away on the first run, this was with out the trany tune portion.

    The guys at WOT and Trifecta have been great with me. I'll update later with more stats, taking the car to the track in two weeks.

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    Re: TRIFECTA presents: LF3 Powertrain Calibration Reprogramming, CTS V-Sport 3.6TT MY

    Sounds great! Can't wait for the track numbers. I plan to buy as soon as I get a bonus check on July 1.

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