Cadillac V-Sport General Discussion Discussion, Vsport test drive, (by 2011 Jaguar XF Supercharged owner) in Cadillac CTS V-Sport; Drove the vsport premium, fully loaded for 20 minutes. Here I'm comparing to my current 2011 XF S/C:
Ride - ...
Vsport test drive, (by 2011 Jaguar XF Supercharged owner)
Drove the vsport premium, fully loaded for 20 minutes. Here I'm comparing to my current 2011 XF S/C:
Ride - harsher even in tour mode. Those RFTs suck in my view, even compared to the XF S/C that has the 20" staggered also. I guess this is the 'German' ride.....
No spare tire - a huge negative in New York area with these potholes.
Handling - sportier than the XF, car feel smaller, steering is better, more toss-able. Overall Ride/handling compromise is better in the XF , but Vsport feels lighter so easier to drive faster. Both have great dynamics.
Trans - mine is 6 speed, but this 8 felt fine to me. paddle shifting not as quick or smooth as the Jag's best-in-class ZF set-up .
Cabin noise - quiet like the XF
Interior quality/fit/finish - one step below XF, but close
Ergonomics - worse with many buttons all over the place, very fussy, and CUE will take time to get used to
outward visibility - worse than even the XF, rear window very small and slanted, side mirrors tiny and narrow.
Driver Seating position - very good supportive comfortable seat, good steering wheel, good dead pedal location and angle - better driver control than the XF
Back seat - XF more comfortable as Vsport cushion too low, but slightly more legroom than XF
Engine noise - nice almost as the blown V-8, sounds sporty under load
Power/acceleration - seems similar to the XF, but the XF mid-range is a beast ( Jaguar always under-rates the engines, and mine has the ECU upgrade also). I did not try 'Track' mode
Exterior styling - nice but playing it safe/conservative. This is not bad, as I like driving a sleeper. 18" wheels look small on this car
Value - Base Performance model is a great value. But, surprisingly in Premium, it's more expensive, not a value proposition even compared to the fully loaded XF with the blown V-8. But since Jaguar USA does not support their resale values, leasing the Vsport will be comparable, or even less.
Re: Vsport test drive, (by 2011 Jaguar XF Supercharged owner)
I agree outward visibility is mediocre in this car if you are tall. I am 6"1 and find that my seat is too far back. At traffic lights, I have to stop WAY before the white line to see the red light. A negative, but I am getting used to it.
I agree with comfort. I just came back from a 5 day trip where I drove about 700 miles, including 150 miles on the way back home. The seats are really comfortable and I wasn't tired at all. In my 2005 Lexus LS my thighs would start hurting after a couple hours due to lack of support. My passengers were also very comfortable in the Caddy, front and back.
The thing that I really love about the Vsport is flexibility. I fancy this to be my 4-door GT car. In tour mode, I can drive my passengers in comfort while still feeling the road and having ample power when I need to. Best of all, I am not bored in GT mode when I drive carefully. In track mode, the car is a beast - I feel every bump (once) and the power is outstanding when the Performance Shift Algorithm (PSA) kicks in.
My only wish is for a V button on the steering - it will turn on and off the PSA. The car is great at anticipating spirited driving, but it cannot predict it. If I want an option for a fixed high-rev mode, I should be able to get it.
Another thing that I actually really like is the safety alert seat. I thought I would turn it off completely along with all the safety warnings when I was buying the car. But I ended up completely loving it. I love quiet vibration of the seat instead of beeping. The steering is tighter than I am used so it's great to have something to keep me in line when I am not paying 100% attention.
I am a value buyer. I believe for $60K the base Vsport is a true gem. You can get a higher performance sports car for less. You can also get a more luxurious car for less. But you cannot get another car that is both as sporty and luxurious as this one without paying tens of thousands of dollars more.
Re: Vsport test drive, (by 2011 Jaguar XF Supercharged owner)
I'm the OP, Took a second test drive yesterday at another dealer. I wanted to verify my initial impressions from above:
Ride - was much nicer this time. therefore I assume the first test the tire pressures were too high?. In 'tour' mode, going over minor potholes, it felt same or even nicer than my XF S/C, hard to tell the difference. In 'track', it wasn't too bad either, but the test drive was about 10 miles total.....
Power - low end torque is good, did not hear any turbo related noises with all windows closed (maybe in 'track' driving aggressive it will do it?). Same as my XF - there is no supercharger whine at all. The top end is weaker, you feel the power tapering off a bit above 5,500 rpm, where the XF SC keeps pumping it to the rev. limiter. I did not look at the turbo boost behavior - should be interesting to see if further tune is possible
Tranny- eager to downshift when called for, no complaints. The paddles worked fine up and down (in 'D'), but 8-9 speeds is getting ridiculous if you like using the paddles downshifting manually (Jag has 8 now also). I live in a very hilly area, and paddle down shift all the time, also to conserve my brake pads ( though my 2011 XF is fully maintenance free including all wear items except tires ala BMW style)
RFT - the salesman admitted this is bad news in NY/LI area after this winter, and they are probably going to lose repeat sales just because of these stupid tires.
Value - Loaded premium MSRP is within $1000 of a new XF S/C today. If I was to lease one today, comparing exactly apples to apples terms, the vsport premium monthly payment would end up being about $200 less than the Jag
Service - Jag oil change at 15,000 miles/or one year. I absolutely love this, as I drive close to that yearly. Jag oil changes are also free, but not air filters, cabin filters, etc. (also, Jag discontinued the BMW style maintenance free program I have now). So for 36-39 month lease, I have to see the Jag dealer only 3 times for oil changes. With the vsport, its 6-7 times at least for oil changes. Jag dealer gives me a loaner always. Cadillac does not offer loaners for scheduled maintenance. This really sucks. My jag dealer is 5 miles away, the closest Caddy is 16 miles.