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Cadillac STS-V Series Forum Discussion, Heated wheel in Cadillac V-Series Forums; Originally Posted by cstarky15 Also my advisor told me the wheel should only be two weeks but could be longer ...
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    Re: Heated wheel

    Quote Originally Posted by cstarky15 View Post
    Also my advisor told me the wheel should only be two weeks but could be longer since they come from new York and they are flooded. right on my repair order says the wheel is discontinued..why lie?
    He told you a two week delay due to shipping out of NY...

    But the paper he handed you says "discontinued" ??

    Seriously?

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    Oh yeah! I was shocked when he blamed it on NY! I'll take a picture of my invoice order showing that it says discontinued. Figured I'd call Cadillac in a day or two and see what they say.

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    Re: Heated wheel

    Hahah, people are amazing...Good luck, and please keep this thing updated when you hear back.

    I wonder what happened with the guy who got an STS wheel...

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    I was bumped to a district specialist. The original person said that the part is discontinued and that no one in GM could source the part. She was going to try a third party person and that came up dry. No surprise there. Should hear from the district guy tomorrow to see what they will do.

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    Re: Heated wheel

    tested mine today and the whole wheel heats up--wonder if its repairable, must just be a break in the heating coil wire some where that could be soldeed somehow id guess--the trick would be getting at the break--id think the thing woild either work or not work, not have some parts working, they must have seaprate elemeints to keep from too much current melting the coil--it doesnt get that cold here, but my wife loves the featrure herself--good luck

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    Re: Heated wheel

    I remember reading that thread where someone used a standard STS wheel. All the center hardware and switches had to be transfered over IIRC, but they made it sound like it wasn't that big of a deal. Getting into your current wheel would probably be disasterous, as the leather would need to be unsewn to get in there to see what's happening. Probably something like this is inside there:

    http://www.svelsensors.net/film-sensing-heating.html

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    Re: Heated wheel

    Timely thread. Mine crapped out tonight. Went to turn it on and nothing... Last time I used it (probably late last winter, it worked fine and heated the whole wheel.

    So I tore into the system. First took my backseat apart to get to the right rear fuse block to see if it simply was a fuse. it was not. Of course my clumsy hands dropped the fuse and it's nowhere to be found. So I will get another and put it in and continue my troubleshooting. First step is to check the underhood fuse block for an open/short. I highly doubt it's there, otherwise I'd have other issues. Next is to test the switch for continuity. From there, check the heated steering wheel module for open/shorts. If not found by then, disconnect the wiring harness to the heating element on the wheel and check for resistance. From there, check all connections, harnesses, etc.

    Based on troubleshooting, replace the heated steering wheel module, replace the heated steering wheel switch, and finally the wheel if all else fails.

    Problem is, to even check the switch, you have to disable the airbag and remove the steering wheel inflatable restraint module. If you have to replace the heated steering wheel module, you have to remove the steering wheel rear plastic shield as it's on the backside of the wheel.

    Anyway, this may be the point where I say "F" it and call the dealer and finally get mine in for a few things. If they argue with me over it, I'm ready. I just fought Chrysler for a new engine in our van, so...

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    Re: Heated wheel

    The problem with these wheels is the heating element itself. It's the same design used in the german sedans, and they have the exact same problems. When mine goes, i'm going to tear the wheel all the way down to the heating element to see if I can't just transplant the element from a new wheel (I have a new 2008 style heated wheel sitting in the closet for this purpose). I had my current wheel recovered by a steering wheel expert, and from what he tells me it won't be easy, but it should be possible.

    BTW...the regular STS wheels are not an option, as they are no different than the STS-V wheels (outside of the trim), and also unavailable. Don't you think GM would have thought of that? You CAN get lucky on ebay, however more often than not, the ones up for sale are there because they are not working. You will occasionally see one guaranteed working, and that will sell for $500+ for that reason.

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    Re: Heated wheel

    Just lost mine a few days ago as well. Probably my favorite feature too. Starting to wonder if getting this car was a mistake. I've had about every issue with these cars happen to me in 8 months, and this has put me over the edge.

    I did notice that sometimes when the wheel is turned just right, the orange led light comes on then shuts right off again when the wheel is straightened. Gotta be a connection inside the column.

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    Re: Heated wheel

    That's my thought too m1. "We're sorry you can live without your heated steering wheel..." Well guess what Cadillac, you can also live without my money then too! I won't buy another if sh*t like this is the norm when parts start breaking. I paid to have a Cadillac, I want the features I bought the car for, to work. Of course, even Kia's now have heated steering wheels, so I guess in the grand scheme of things...

    I used to take stuff apart all the time and fix them, but it is a time consuming, sometimes costly process that I don't have the time/patience for anymore.

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    Re: Heated wheel

    id think the wheel was made by an OEM supplier of wheels--- maybe the Caddy person who monitors this site could tell us who made them so we could contcat them. The economics might be tough--id guess its a 4-500 part,plus install, so itd be maybe 1000 bucks--but itd be good to know if they can still be gotten--

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    Torched, talking to the GM people they told me that they talked to their corporate parts dept and even they can't get that wheel anymore. I'd say try to find a junk car and hope the wheel is good. I'm in talks with a regional rep about what is reasonable compensation if any, for not having the part. The key is to be nice, you get nothing when bring an ass to someone trying to help.

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    Re: Heated wheel

    Mine is scheduled tenatively to go in to Heritage on Wednesday, I wanted to get it on for Monday, but have to work so... Regardless, taking it on on Wednesday is simply their initial, "Yup, it's broken, lets see what we can do..." appointment.

    It's going in for;
    - Heated steering wheel inoperative
    - leaking differential around the halfshaft seals
    - Lower trim on drivers side of dash broken and mis-aligned
    - third brake light lens, on drivers side, is popping out of the spoiler (I know this will be a special order item, and if it's the whole spoiler, I'm sure it will need to be painted to match, which adds additional time/complexity to something simple). Upon initial investigation, it looks like it's all one unit that needs to be replaced. If they can just replace the 3rd brake light, all the better.

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    Re: Heated wheel

    Quote Originally Posted by m1jones View Post
    Just lost mine a few days ago as well. Probably my favorite feature too. Starting to wonder if getting this car was a mistake. I've had about every issue with these cars happen to me in 8 months, and this has put me over the edge.

    I did notice that sometimes when the wheel is turned just right, the orange led light comes on then shuts right off again when the wheel is straightened. Gotta be a connection inside the column.
    Me too. I love the car but it's a piece of shit. 4th Cadillac and all I can think is how I should have kept the escalade or the CTS V before that. My heated steering wheel doesn't work, shift linkage screws up, engine temp sensor goes out on occasion and motor mounts are broke, all of which apparently are quite common. I'm just going to drive the piece of shit into the ground till the new Grand National hits in two years.

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