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    Questionable Carfax Maintenance Records - Looking for Opinions

    I'm quickly approaching the end of my CTS-V lease, and I've been looking in the used car market for a 2007 STS-V. I came across one today that is priced very competetively ($45K) with 13K miles on it. I looked at the Carfax report and noticed a trend that made me curious, and I wanted to get some feedback from the forum to see if anyone thinks this is something that should deter me from this particular STS-V.

    I pasted the history below. As you can see, the 1st owner of the car brought it in for servicing one week after they leased/registered it. Over the next 11 months they took it in for servicing 7 times, and during these visits they had a wheel replaced 3 times and had the suspension/steering checked multiple times. Looks like there was a nagging problem, and they finally got out of the car 11 months into their lease. All of the servicing was done at Morris Cadillac in Ohio, so I will probably call their service department to see if they remember this car and what the story is... but in the meantime I wanted to get the thoughts of the forum members. Any opinions are appreciated!


    01/04/2007 Ohio
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Westlake, OH Registered as
    personal vehicle

    01/05/2007
    462 miles
    Ohio Motor Vehicle Dept.
    North Olmsted, OH
    Title #4701862448 Title issued or updated
    First owner reported
    Loan or lien reported
    Registered as lease vehicle

    01/11/2007
    Morris Cadillac Pontiac GMC
    North Ridgeville, OH
    440-327-4181
    www.morriscpg.com
    Vehicle serviced

    04/02/2007
    2,497 miles
    Morris Cadillac Pontiac GMC
    North Ridgeville, OH
    440-327-4181
    www.morriscpg.com
    Vehicle serviced
    Wheel(s) replaced
    Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
    Parts ordered

    06/21/2007
    6,040 miles
    Morris Cadillac Pontiac GMC
    North Ridgeville, OH
    440-327-4181
    www.morriscpg.com
    Vehicle serviced
    Oil and filter changed chassis lubricated
    Wheel(s) replaced
    Steering/suspension checked

    07/23/2007
    7,143 miles
    Morris Cadillac Pontiac GMC
    North Ridgeville, OH
    440-327-4181
    www.morriscpg.com
    Vehicle serviced

    08/30/2007
    9,681 miles
    Morris Cadillac Pontiac GMC
    North Ridgeville, OH
    440-327-4181
    www.morriscpg.com
    Vehicle serviced
    Steering/suspension checked

    10/01/2007
    11,848 miles
    Morris Cadillac Pontiac GMC
    North Ridgeville, OH
    440-327-4181
    www.morriscpg.com
    Vehicle serviced
    Wheel(s) replaced

    11/27/2007
    13,808 miles
    Morris Cadillac Pontiac GMC
    North Ridgeville, OH
    440-327-4181
    www.morriscpg.com
    Vehicle serviced

    01/15/2008
    13,942 miles
    Auto Auction Sold at auction
    in Ohio
    Listed as a manufacturer vehicle

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    Re: Questionable Carfax Maintenance Records - Looking for Opinions

    seems a little odd, but some of these v's have been back a few times for other things, and are fine...dash rattles, seats, radio/nav, alignment, exhaust, power steering.

    good idea to check with the service dept that did work.

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    I know that car personally....its a Black STSv that the guy swapped for a C63. I know the dealer (where I get all my service) and they do good work.

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    Re: Questionable Carfax Maintenance Records - Looking for Opinions

    Take a box of donuts to service mgr. Also, ask him if he would ask prev owner to call you. Also, ask service mgr if you can talk with mechanic(s) who worked on it. Service records will identify mechanics. Donuts for mechanics too.

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    Ask for Brandon in sales (now). He used to be the svc. writer for that car. He will let you know everything you want to know.


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    Re: Questionable Carfax Maintenance Records - Looking for Opinions

    The service record makes no sense. If the front suspension was suspect, why would the wheels be replaced repeatedly? Makes me wonder if a tire rotation is being entered or misinterpreted as a wheel r/r. Still, I'd share your concern and unless I found a conclusive satisfactory explanation for the situation, I'd pass on the car.

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    Re: Questionable Carfax Maintenance Records - Looking for Opinions

    My guess it was a buy back car . . .

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    Re: Questionable Carfax Maintenance Records - Looking for Opinions

    could be. alot of the lease cars are being auctioned off too.

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    Re: Questionable Carfax Maintenance Records - Looking for Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by Berger 93 View Post
    My guess it was a buy back car . . .
    That's absolutely correct, according to Brandon the former service writer for the car (thanks Florian!). I spoke with him this afternoon and he was very familiar with the car. He said that none of the wheels were ever replaced - it was the tires. The previous owner was not happy with the rapid deterioration of the tires, so he kept having the suspension/alignment/steering/etc. checked and over the course of the year they replaced three of the tires. Eventually he was able to get out of the car through GM buyback. Brandon told me that he does not know of any reason not to consider buying this car, as long as I understand the extra costs (i.e. excess tire wear) associated with a high performance vehicle. After driving a CTS-V for the past 3 years I think I'm pretty familiar with that aspect!

    This brings me to another question.... what tires have been good replacement tires for this car? In my CTS-V I only got 11,000 miles out of the stock Goodyear F1's, but I replaced them with Eagle RS-A EMT's and they've got 22,000 miles and still 1/8 inch tread remaining.

    Also, any feedback from those of you who made the jump from CTS-V to STS-V is welcome.... are you happy with the switch?

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    Re: Questionable Carfax Maintenance Records - Looking for Opinions

    The Pirellis do dissolve at a very quick pace, but with 469 hp and 440 lb/ft of torque they are going to melt away! Oh and a heavy right foot doesn't help.

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    Re: Questionable Carfax Maintenance Records - Looking for Opinions

    Well, I bought it. It was listed at $44,999 and I sealed the deal at $43,500. After speaking with Brandon the former service writer for the car I feel pretty confident about the purchase. Still, it's a little nervewracking buying it sight unseen. But the deal is contingent on a third party inspection that will take place tomorrow.

    All in all I think I got a pretty sweet deal for a 2007 STS-V with less than 14K miles. Can't wait til it's parked in my garage!

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    congrats...

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    Re: Questionable Carfax Maintenance Records - Looking for Opinions

    Quote Originally Posted by RamblinV View Post
    Also, any feedback from those of you who made the jump from CTS-V to STS-V is welcome.... are you happy with the switch?
    Congrats on the purchase! You are going to love the car. I went from an 04 CTS-V to the STS-V and have been very happy with the car. It took me a little while to get used to the additional size/weight and the Auto, but after a little less than a year I am very comfortable with the car. Took it up to VIR a couple of months ago and had a blast with it. I still feel like the CTS-V handles a little better, but straight line performance seems about the same and you get all the comfort/luxury benefits (and additional room) of the STS-V.

    I still have reasonable treadlife on the stock Pirellis after 7800 miles. That is almost double what I got out of the F1-EMTs on my CTS-V (replaced at approx. 4k miles!). So the Pirellis are soft, but not nearly as bad as what you are coming from.

    Enjoy the car!

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    Welcome and congrats. You'll love the car!

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