How is the STS-V against the current speed champs..

[austin]

Has anyone here ever raced against an 2004+ E55 AMG, or a 2006+ BMW M3/M5??

I'm Just curious to know how close a stock STS-V is in keeping up with these cars (either on the highway or drag racing). Will a stock STS-V get slaughtered everytime??

[Slo-Mo-Shun]

There is test at caranddriver dot com if you care to find the answer. The STS-V has some torque nannies that keep it from being as fast at a drag strip as it should be. As for "on the highway" all of these cars are capable of manuevers far beyond anything that could sanely, let alone legally, be attempted on public roads. Please save it for track days. Better yet, spend $6000 on a shifter kart. After a few days in one of those (0-100-0 in 10 seconds; 0-60 in 3.5 seconds; 2.5 g's in a turn), street cars won't seem so fast and the temptation to be stupid goes away.

[austin]

Originally Posted by Slo-Mo-Shun

There is test at caranddriver dot com if you care to find the answer. The STS-V has some torque nannies that keep it from being as fast at a drag strip as it should be.

Good reading, although i was looking for more of a real world comparison instead of a controlled one;

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...pisode-39.html

[adamhw]

Has anyone seen any info comparing a tuned v(no nannies, but all stock parts) compared to these cars on the track/strip.

I am purchasing a '06 v this week. Once I get the car I was considering getting it tuned either through mail-in like vector etc., or arranging a custom tune. I have a lot of track time, with a lot of different cars. I just sold my race car that I daily drove because I had back surgery and couldn't drive it anymore. I don't plan on tracking my v, and it's track performance is not why I'm buying the car, however if in a convienent situation where I was at the track with my car there is a good chance I'll take it out.

Also I am a very much so law abiding citizen, and not much of a risk taker. I agree street racing and hgwy pulls are illegal and insane, I'd be a complete lier if I said I've never done anything like that. So any comparison info tuned v vs imports on the street would also be interesting and appreciated.

[LITTLEELVISDAN]

my 06 is bone stock and going in for a custom tune. I'll post up the dyno's (stock/tuned) when the tune is complete. My appointment is for Feb. 4. I don't think there is any car BMW makes (street production) that will take a STS-V. BUT the AMG 55 is a different story ( but we have a useable back seat). I have heard a 40 hp gain to the rear wheels with just a tune so I believe that would put the V in AMG hunting grounds. Am I being to optimistic?

[LITTLEELVISDAN]

CL63 AMG with the options our V has is stickered @ $149,850. comparing sticker to sticker you could buy 2 STS-V's for one CL AMG.
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CL63AMG: Gross weight 5532 lbs with a 23 gal gas tank. Curb weight 4599lbs. 518 hp / 465 tq.
STS-V: Gross weight (can't find) with a 17 gal gas tank. Curb weight 4394 lbs 470hp / 440tq.

Given custom tunes are yielding arond 40+- hp gains that puts the STS-V @ 510hp / 465 tq area +-. I would say it puts them pretty damn even for half the cost.

[Slo-Mo-Shun]

Originally Posted by LITTLEELVISDAN

I don't think there is any car BMW makes (street production) that will take a STS-V. BUT the AMG 55 is a different story ( but we have a useable back seat). I have heard a 40 hp gain to the rear wheels with just a tune so I believe that would put the V in AMG hunting grounds. Am I being to optimistic?

The current M5 has over 500 hp and a 7 speed sequential manual. In the C&D test discussed above it stayed with the AMG up to 60 and actually was pulling away after 100mph. There is no doubt it is a monster. C&D said the STS-V is a better daily driver. It certainly is more reasonably priced. If I want a race car I'll buy and drive a race car.

[bobs-sts-v]

The S-65 AMG has 612HP and 539ft-lbs torque pumping out of the V12 biturbo. Just a monster. And a helluva lot more room in the rear seat than the V. But at over 2X the cost, not sure if it is a better deal. But both are fun to drive, but the S-65 is much quicker in all respects. The Cadillac is hands down more reliable. And getting parts for the Benz are next to impossible. So I prefer to drive my V and let the wife drive the Benz - when it isn't in the shop.

Bob

[Dr. Design]

Hello,
We had a couple of our customers run into a few of the vehicles that were mentioned. Of course we send our customers out with no less than 500HP. The M3 is no contest. It would just get a really nice view of the STSV tail lamps. The M5 is okay, but really lacks torque. The E55 will keep up, but it wont blow any doors off. The E63 is another story. That car is a beast. A stage 2 STSV (550-575HP) will be able to take on that motor. There are quite a few torque management features that are in the STSV. The power is certainly there, its just a matter of getting it to the ground in its complete form. We have XLRV's running low 12's on stage 1.5's. The STSV's, in the right weather, should be capable of running high 12's with a few bolt on mods.

Thanks,

Dr. Design
D3 Cadillac

Originally Posted by adamhw

Has anyone seen any info comparing a tuned v(no nannies, but all stock parts) compared to these cars on the track/strip.

I am purchasing a '06 v this week. Once I get the car I was considering getting it tuned either through mail-in like vector etc., or arranging a custom tune. I have a lot of track time, with a lot of different cars. I just sold my race car that I daily drove because I had back surgery and couldn't drive it anymore. I don't plan on tracking my v, and it's track performance is not why I'm buying the car, however if in a convienent situation where I was at the track with my car there is a good chance I'll take it out.

Also I am a very much so law abiding citizen, and not much of a risk taker. I agree street racing and hgwy pulls are illegal and insane, I'd be a complete lier if I said I've never done anything like that. So any comparison info tuned v vs imports on the street would also be interesting and appreciated.

[CIWS]

I went for a dyno tune yesterday with them using HPTUNERS software. Unfortunately I still have to go back because the initial tune with the TQ Mangmt was causing the auto trans to act funny and nothing I would want to drive on a constant basis. I simply ran out of time yesterday as initially we were only expecting roughly about 3 hours. However what was done while the tune was in reaped 20hp at the wheels bringing the car to right at about 500hp flywheel. We'll see if/how things will get figured out when I get time to go back.

It sure would be nice if those who have had a tune done or have done a tune themselves were to share some info on what to do and/or look for when tuning these cars vs letting each individual just go through the process themselves every time.