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Re: How is the STS-V against the current speed champs..

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It sure would be nice if those who have had a tune done or have done a tune themselves were to share some info on what to do and/or look for when tuning these cars vs letting each individual just go through the process themselves every time.
Someone needs to come out with a simple hand held flash tuner "like" the diablosports predator (only better) with air/fuel, timing, and torque mahnagement already pre-configured (dyno proven of course), for either 91 or 93 octane use, and they will be the winner... No more fooling around.. Oh ya, it also has to get rid of the top speed limiter.
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Re: How is the STS-V against the current speed champs..

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Someone needs to come out with a simple hand held flash tuner "like" the diablosports predator (only better) with air/fuel, timing, and torque mahnagement already pre-configured (dyno proven of course), for either 91 or 93 octane use, and they will be the winner... No more fooling around.. Oh ya, it also has to get rid of the top speed limiter.
Well that would be nice, but the question comes back to how many potential customers there would be with a vehicle of such limited production, and if any said company would see it as being worth their time/money to do so.

As far as the speed limiter setting, has anyone even taken the car to it's stock limit of 155 ? Is it capable of exceeding that speed by much ?

The CTS-V had a PCM limitation of 168, and a stock V couldn't make it to 166.
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Well that would be nice, but the question comes back to how many potential customers there would be with a vehicle of such limited production, and if any said company would see it as being worth their time/money to do so.

As far as the speed limiter setting, has anyone even taken the car to it's stock limit of 155 ? Is it capable of exceeding that speed by much ?

The CTS-V had a PCM limitation of 168, and a stock V couldn't make it to 166.
Hi CIWS,
I`ve had the US model to 158 mph when the limiter comes in very softly.

My export STS V8 is not governed, I`ve get it always up to 276 kph (171 mph) here on the Autobahns.I`m playing right now with the idea to get me the export STS V, my dealer got one black/black, if I buy it (depends on what they`ll give me for my 13 month old STS) I`ll let you know the top speed.
When my 325 hp (german rating) V8 is able to do 276 kph I expect from the 476 hp (german rating) V to see something around 300 kph ( 186 mph).

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Re: How is the STS-V against the current speed champs..

That's great Harry ! Thanks for some real world info.
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Re: How is the STS-V against the current speed champs..

If you don't like going top-speed fast (which i can see why.. it's dangerous), then your probably not going to like being able to play a DVD movie while you drive. CoastelEtech is now working on a STS NAV solution to do just so (many thanks to tomm for informing us of it). Hopefully they will have a plug n' play solution out soon.

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums...gation-48.html (STS navigation)

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Re: How is the STS-V against the current speed champs..

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Well that would be nice, but the question comes back to how many potential customers there would be with a vehicle of such limited production, and if any said company would see it as being worth their time/money to do so.
A 3rd party company would most likely talk to diablosport etc, or anyone else that packages a handheld for sale, and enhance one of those existing products for STS-V use.. This would effectively keep the cost down.


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The CTS-V had a PCM limitation of 168, and a stock V couldn't make it to 166.
"Apples & Oranges".. The CTS-V was at its limit at 166-mph with the 3.73:1 rear gear ratio.. The STS-V has a higher top speed (as someone already got there non-limited STS-V to 176-mph).. I wouldn't recomend going that fast, but it's nice to know that the STS-V can keep up with the best of them on the highway (in non-limited form).. Most likely due to the 3.23:1 rear ratio ...and also having a few more HP/Trq can't hurt either!!
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"Apples & Oranges".. The CTS-V was at its limit at 166-mph with the 3.73:1 rear gear ratio..
Most stock CTS-Vs couldn't bust 163, but that's really neither here nor there, I was simply using it as an example not comparing apples and oranges. If the STS-V can do over 165mph then one may wish to remove/increase the speed limiter from 155. For me personally there are no roads around here where the traffic ever clears enough to think I could see 140 for more than a few seconds at best, much less try to keep climbing past 155. Now if I was out in Nevada or Montana somewhere.....
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The S-65 AMG has 612HP and 539ft-lbs torque pumping out of the V12 biturbo. Just a monster. And a helluva lot more room in the rear seat than the V. But at over 2X the cost, not sure if it is a better deal. But both are fun to drive, but the S-65 is much quicker in all respects. The Cadillac is hands down more reliable. And getting parts for the Benz are next to impossible. So I prefer to drive my V and let the wife drive the Benz - when it isn't in the shop.

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lets be clear the S-63 is our competetor with a V8. and runs 2x more. The S-65 is a V-12 and MSRP is $207k almost 3x a STS-V
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Re: How is the STS-V against the current speed champs..

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Someone needs to come out with a simple hand held flash tuner "like" the diablosports predator (only better) with air/fuel, timing, and torque mahnagement already pre-configured (dyno proven of course), for either 91 or 93 octane use, and they will be the winner... No more fooling around.. Oh ya, it also has to get rid of the top speed limiter.
The thought is nice but the results would be somewhat tame. No one wants to sell you an aggressive tune since every motor is different and an aggressive tune on one car may lean out your engine and blow it. So most of the "canned" tunes are going to be on the consertive side, thus leaving you asking why you paid $500 for only 15 hP. If I was driving a Camaro or mustang I might be satisfied with going a canned tune. But there is so much potential in our motors on an individual basis I am happy to get mine custome tuned. I'l never have to worry about hurting my motor but I will know I got the most out of it I wanted. Do it right. Spend the money and have it custom tuned. My HPTuner was $600 for the pro kit(real time data logging without a lap-top connected) Dyno tuning should run $400 to $500. So for around $1000 I will be running strong and safe. Knock $300 off of that since I am using the other credits of my HPTuner to dyno tune my Denali and I only spend $700 in total for my STS-V tune. Roughly $200 more than canned tunes.
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Re: How is the STS-V against the current speed champs..

oh yeah! with 3.5 times the gain (15 x 3.5 = 40) .......... Hopefully :-)
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