STS-V Crash With Airbag Failure & Stability Control Failure

[thefred]

Originally Posted by izzman

UPDATE

The car is still in the shop and has no ETA on being fixed. They actually cut off and rewelded the front frame rail and wheel well. I am still fighting for this thing to be totalled.

You must be joking! I sure hope they pay diminished value in your state. By the time they finish paying for repairs, rental car and diminished value, it would certainly be less to total it.

[Curious George]

I've beaten Stabilitrack (sp?) in my STS from time-to-time. (Or was stabilitrack asleep at the switch?) Fortunately for me, most of these occasions were on a skid pad at a driver school. I caught the passenger air bag AWOL once: my car was still new to me so I was checking the bells and whistles including the passenger airbag indicator light. It was Off even though there was a regulation-sized adult passenger in in the right seat. I switched the car off and re-started it, and the passenger airbag came on. This fault has not recurred in the 18 months since.

[izzman]

Final total on the repair is close to $36G. The initial chekc of the cars computer indicated a failure of the safety systems.

[sj1400]

$36k - it should be totaled. When the shop starts the repair they will find more damage. The key will be only so much can be fixed & will they cut corners ? When it's all put back together will the system failure return ?

The insurance co is being cheap..

Just wondering what the temperature was before impact ? Combination of rain & cold temps may have contributed.

[duraz28]

Not an STSV But a employee of ours was involded in a head on with the safety sand filled barrals in front of a cement pillar on a interstate over pass at 70mph and the airbags in his 2006 2500HD pickup with 10147 miles on it did not deploye. I had gm come out plug into it and get the last 5 sec of data from the black box under the seat took it back to research and devlopment and found no vault in the system pickup was a total loss nothing very little was good only body piece good was the tailgate. only drivetrain component good was the rearend. I think gm has a problem with there airbag systems it not the first pickup that the bags didnt deploy.

[FJC]

I crashed and roll over my stsv car last january. No air bags were deployed . My car also upon passing a truck surged left and struct the truck causing my car to spin out of control and roll over on its roof. Car was a total lost.

Seems odd that both cars surged left out of control stabilty track was on ?

[leija_01]

makes me scared to drive my car....

that car needs to be totaled...

[dfwlac]

this january i slid on ice and hit a tree with the sts v going around 40mph. the rear door on the passenger side of the car was competely smashed in. none of the airbags deployed even in my situation and after taking the black box information GMs response to why the airbags did not deploy was "it was the angle at which the impact occured" here are some attached pics the body shop had taken the door off but you can see extensive quaterpanel and piller damage

[SVT Gator]

WOW - that is some scary sh*t. If the side and curtain airbags would not deploy in a side impact like that, then it certainly makes you wonder if they ever would. Not good...

[CIWS]

Originally Posted by dfwlac

none of the airbags deployed even in my situation and after taking the black box information GMs response to why the airbags did not deploy was "it was the angle at which the impact occured"

So roughly at what angle did the impact occur ?

I thought side impact airbags were for someone basically t-boning you to keep your head from snapping straight into the windows.

[WillySTS]

Originally Posted by CIWS

So roughly at what angle did the impact occur ?

I thought side impact airbags were for someone basically t-boning you to keep your head from snapping straight into the windows.

Was there a right front seat passenger? The right side air bags will not deploy if there is no right front seat passenger. The left side air bags will not deploy in a right side collision.

[WillySTS]

As a note, I have had to have my right front passenger seat sensing module replaced 3 times. Everyone should make sure that it lets you know the passenger seat air bag IS activated when a regulation sized adult is seated there. Otherwise it(right front air bag or right side curtain) WILL NOT deploy during a crash.

[dfwlac]

To clarify it was a group of smaller trees that i hit not just one so there were multiple points of impact but most of the dammage was done to the midsection of the rear door which was in the shape of a taco after the collision and to the lower body of the car, the front door midsection was also badly damaged (this is all refering to the passnger side of the car). There was no passengers in the car only me. However when i taked to a tech from GM he didnt mention there having to be a passenger sitting in the side for the side airbag to go off rather he said the angle of the impact did not cause sensors to enguage and activate the airbags which is crazy seeing how much damage the car took (final cost close to $13000). The information from the box indicated that the airbag system was fully operational also... Now that the car is fixed...I am a little concerned weather or not the airbags will go off next time something happens. my family currently owns 4 gm vehicles and we really like them all so i hope what their tech was telling me was the case....

[dhemrick]

That was only $13K to fix? I would have expected more.

Now that it is fixed, can you tell any difference in the car? Is it back to the way it was before?

[dfwlac]

the body shop did a pretty good job i cant really see any difference in the way it looks. as far as driving goes i honestly cant tell a difference either turning feels the same way as it did before and it drives straight. There was no damage to the engine so no odd noise commin from there but if anything arises ill be sure post