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Cadillac STS Forum - 2005 through 2012 Discussion, STS Nav Better than Critics Credit in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Originally Posted by Guy.Seminerio My disc part number is 22820294. She said the one I want is 22944166. 22820294 is ...
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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy.Seminerio View Post
    My disc part number is 22820294.
    She said the one I want is 22944166.
    22820294 is the 2012 disc.
    22944166 is the 2013 disc.

    They just want to have you spend more money with them.

    05-11 STS 2013 disc:
    http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INT...4AAAE.dLpoq6H7

    Code:
    COMPATIBILITY
    
    This navigation map update is compatible with the following GM vehicles:
    2005-2011 Cadillac STS Note: These vehicles may require a software update. Please see the Features tab for more information.
    2005-2012 Chevrolet Corvette
    2005-2009 Pontiac Grand Prix
    2007-2009 Saab 9-5
    05-12 Corvette disc:
    http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INT...kAAAE.DKVoq6IC

    Code:
    COMPATIBILITY
    
    This navigation map update is compatible with the following GM vehicles:
    2005-2011 Cadillac STS Note: These vehicles may require a software update. Please see the Features tab for more information.
    2005-2012 Chevrolet Corvette
    2005-2009 Pontiac Grand Prix
    2007-2009 Saab 9-5

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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    Son of a b. I knew this chick didn't know what she was talking about. Alright thanks a lot.

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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    Have you tried pulling the nav unit out and re-plugging all the connectors on it?
    Perhaps one wasn't fully seated, or one of the wires may be damaged?

    The trim part can be difficult to get off but after that the nav is only held in with (4) 10mm bolts.
    Take care with the GPS antenna on the right hand rear of the unit, the cable is about 2 or 3 inches shorter than one would like it to be.

    If you have a lockpick or XM audio interface (iPod adapter) try running without them attached to see if it changes things.

    If all else fails there are a lot of 05+ Nav units on eBay for around 400-600, certainly a lot cheaper than new ones are but who knows how well they work.

    Have you gone into the diagnostics / service menu to compare version number information with another nav unit?

    DIAG pin should be 295660 for your model.
    Display your map, press the 'menu' soft key, press and hold the middle top of the screen (just below the area taken up by the top banner that says source and clock info) for about 8 seconds and a PIN pad will pop up.
    Go to software info and compare


    These are from my 08 model:


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    I don't have it with me, but I want to say the diag code for my 06s is a 4 digit number.

    There is a thread on here all about the firmware upgrade, with how to check and version numbers.

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    Sorry, I was thinking Guy had an 06. Now I see it's 09.........NEVER MIND.

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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    Diag code is 9448 for my 05 and dads 07

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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    yeah the code changes a bit through the years.

    you can also use '660' but then you have to turn off the car and open the door to kill RAP if you want to use the radio again.
    9448 doesn't work on mine.

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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    Ok couple of things. A few months ago I did the secret code thing and took pics of my versions, etc. here is where mine differs from yours. "NAVI" is 0070. DVD is 1.33. Audio is 2.01. On software info, Comp Id and supplier code match yours on the left column. On the right column, only DF doesn't match.

    The next thing I was planning on trying was pulling the unit and unplugging and reconnecting all connections/ checking all connections. Any advice on doing this? Do all the trim pieces pull straight out prying style?

    Don't have a lock pick installed.

    Thanks for all the help and suggestions guys. Ill let you know what ends up happening.

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    I have interior trim tools by the way.

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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    There is only 1 trim panel to remove, it pulls straight out.
    There are 6 clips, one in each corner and 2 in the middle (one per side).
    Start at the bottom and work your way up is how I do it and is how the service manual says to do it.

    The GPS antenna wire has its safety clip on the bottom of the connector, all the others are on top and have a little blue tab that is supposed to keep them locked in place that need to be pulled rearwards then you can push down on the release mechanism to remove them.
    Should be 4 multipin harnesses and 1 GPS antenna wire.

    Regarding version numbers, mine is 08 and yours is 09.
    I would wonder why your 'navi' version is 0070 (converted from HEX would be build 112) and not 10C0 (converted from HEX would be build 4228).
    Clearly your newer unit is running an older version of the Navi firmware, but you have a newer audio version than I do.

    There MUST be an update out there that should apply to both of us, unless mine already has it due to a previous owner.

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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    Hmm. I'd still like to take another sts with HUD's disc out and try it on mine before I start pulling stuff part. If it doesn't work on mine, ill know its a connection or what I think you're suspecting which is that there is in fact a firmware update available for my nav and my dealer didn't know it. And believe me I wouldn't put it past them to get that wrong.

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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    I feel that you would be wasting your time trying to find another disc from a HUD or non HUD car.
    They are the same P/N for the disc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy.Seminerio
    Hmm. I'd still like to take another sts with HUD's disc out and try it on mine before I start pulling stuff part. If it doesn't work on mine, ill know its a connection or what I think you're suspecting which is that there is in fact a firmware update available for my nav and my dealer didn't know it. And believe me I wouldn't put it past them to get that wrong.
    Read above for my post. Will do nothing for you.

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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    Honestly the STS was such a low volume seller and has been out of production for 3 model years now (2014 MY cars are out already).
    A lot of the people that knew about their intimate details likely no longer work for the dealers anymore or they have simply forgotten some of the fine details about the STS.
    I feel that the availability of any firmware updates were likely not communicated well with the dealers, especially with the bankruptcy issues going on I feel that the STS was likely somewhat neglected during this time.

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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    You may want to try reaching out to EWill3rd on the forum. He's a supreme Caddy Tech but hasn't huing out in the STS area for a while.

    I don't think it's the Nav Disk, either. Here's the full rundown I've accumulated:

    STS Navigation Disk Versions/GM#/Year/ISO-Name(s)/2nd/Alternative

    V1.0 10381281 2005 DW464210-6270 10381886 (Corvette-OEM)
    V2.0 15794606 2006 DW464210-6400 15779679 (Corvette-OEM)
    V3.0 15924195 2007 DW464210-6570 15932106 (Corvette-OEM)
    V4.0 25852830 2008 DW464210-6740 (West) -6750 (East)
    V5.0 25976806 2009 DW464210-6970 (West) -6980 (East)
    V6.0 20861474 2010 DW464210-7140 (West) -7150 (East)
    V7.0 20980238 2011 DW464210-7360 (West) -7370 (East)
    V8.0 22820294 2012 DW464210-7510
    V9.0 22944166 2013 DW464210-7520

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    Re: STS Nav Better than Critics Credit

    Alright then. Ill be pulling the nav tomorrow then. Thanks.

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