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Cadillac STS Forum - 2005 through 2012 Discussion, difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS? in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; yes, export models in europe have headlights auto leveling option with hid, cause this option is required along with washers ...
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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    yes, export models in europe have headlights auto leveling option with hid, cause this option is required along with washers for every car sold at europe market with hid

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    Very nice. So what is the method of getting that in our cars, or is it still a work in progress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy.Seminerio View Post
    Very nice. So what is the method of getting that in our cars, or is it still a work in progress?
    If I recall the holdups for ddalder and the auto leveling system are lack of correct wiring and possibly the leveling motors for the lights. I think he wants a full set of export headlights.
    When I bought a damaged hid housing from a domestic 05 model it seemed that it would be simple to pop off the vertical adjuster and pop in a new adjuster that had a motor in it.

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    Gotcha gotcha sounds good. Looking forward to the results of that project.

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    The hold-up for me has been a couple of things... I have the headlamp leveling module and both the wiring harnesses I require to build the new one for adding this option, I just haven't had time to complete the new harness. The other part is the new headlamps are going to cost me $2K and I need to spend a little money on my Bonneville before I put out that kind of money for a non-critical upgrade project like this. I may or may not get it completed this summer. I'll definitely finish up the wiring but I may not put out the money for the headlamps until next spring depending on how late in the year it is when I'm finally ready to move ahead. No point in having brand new headlamps sandblasted by winter road gravel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PontiacV8 View Post
    ...black leather/interior (19I, 193, IL3) was available on 2007 Platinum STS...
    Now I'm really disappointed because if they had carried this forward to 2008 and beyond, I would have been looking for a Platinum. Thanks for ruining my day lol.

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    So the headlamps themselves definitely need to be changed. Is that what I'm getting here?

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy.Seminerio View Post
    So the headlamps themselves definitely need to be changed. Is that what I'm getting here?
    I don't think that you _have_ to ... I think it's more that ddalder is thinking if you are going to spend the time and money on retrofitting the auto leveling motors into headlight housings you might as well do it to new ones so that you have flawless housings again.

    I think all that is really needed is the motors themselves and the appropriate wiring and then have the feature enabled in the car's programming.
    If you are thinking of doing so Guy I *think* that since the V doesn't have MRC it doesn't have the needed suspension level sensors built in so you would have to get the other sensor method to allow it to work with yours.
    There are notes for the 24 pin wire harness about (without K59) and (without F55) and (TT7/TT8 with K59) and the leveling option seems to be TR7 option code.

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    Oh boy you're hurting my brain. I'm pretty sure the V has auto leveling in the back. Not sure if that's what you were even questioning. Wonder if this will make it easier or harder for me.

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    All 2005+ STS's have auto leveling in the back. The difference it that it doesn't respond with any degree of speed. This is used to adjust for variable weight in the back. There are delays built into the system to prevent the compressor from turning on/off every second or two. The leveling system for the headlights is designed to respond almost instantaneously.

    I'm not certain as to how easy it is to add the headlamp leveling motors and associated parts to the headlamps. I know that since GM doesn't sell these parts separately from the headlamps, I need to purchase the entire headlamp assemblies. I'm not interested in used parts for something like this. I did see a (used) pair for sale in Europe a while back, but they were still going to cost me $1,200 CAN.

    For vehicles with the export headlamp leveling (RPO: TR7) but without the F55 option, GM installs a sensor on the left front and rear suspension. These connect directly to the headlamp leveling module which mounts on the side of the right headlamp assembly.

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    Yeah, Darcy is right as usual )
    Just sent you a pm about this.

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    Got it thanks for clarifying. This ain't gonna be cheap. Might pass on this one but interested to see the results.

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    yes...and those that angle in the direction you are turning as well...along with HID hi-beams

    reading this thread

    some of you guys know that these options were available on many other cars right?

    along with lane departure...automatic brake assist...etc..etc


    Warren

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    Quote Originally Posted by ddalder
    Thanks for ruining my day lol.
    ...you're welcome, Darcy ... (sorry... )

    ...btw...
    Quote Originally Posted by ddalder View Post
    All 2005+ STS's have auto leveling in the back.
    ...hmm...AFAIK...the FE1 cars don't have an electr. auto leveling system in the back...there is also no level control compressor and control module, no suspension level sensors..and the shocks are also completely different to the FE3/F55...

    ...but for sure:

    ...all V6 2005 - 2007 MAE export STS got FE1, no electr. auto leveling, no compressor, but as export all got Xenon/HIDs, washers and TR7...there is also no "MODULE, ELEK SUSP CONT", old Part-#25735852, replaced by #15816809 in the trunk/passenger side...

    ...all V8 2005 - 2007 MAE export STS got FE3/F55 and the auto leveling incl. compressor, susp. control module, shocks/struts...and also the HIDs and TR7...including the same HID/headlamps/part-# and parts the export MAE V6 used---> the little headlamp leveling motors (Denso #25726383) and headlamp leveling module (GM #15223019, made by Denso...GM retail price around 417 US-$)

    EDIT:...ok...never mind...just forget about the "self-leveling" nivomat shocks used in FE1 cars...but I don't or won't call this an "auto leveling" system...

    Quote Originally Posted by ddalder View Post
    I'm not interested in used parts for something like this. I did see a (used) pair for sale in Europe a while back, but they were still going to cost me $1,200 CAN.
    ...I know you don't like used...but as a side note...on ebay.de (Germany) there is a used pair Denso #25726383 headlamp leveling motors for around 50 euro each (but who knows what other parts are needed... ) and a headlamp leveling control module GM#15223019 for around 150 euro available...

    EDIT:
    ...ah...I just saw you got a headlamp leveling module...

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    Re: difference between STS4 1sg and Platinum Edition STS?

    Quote Originally Posted by turnne View Post
    yes...and those that angle in the direction you are turning as well...along with HID hi-beams

    reading this thread

    some of you guys know that these options were available on many other cars right?

    along with lane departure...automatic brake assist...etc..etc


    Warren
    The exports got the headlight angling around corners like the 08+ CTS??
    Infiniti came out with a lot of the safety awareness stuff like lane departure etc. I think cadillac has been reluctant to get into the active safety features (lane keeping assist vs LDW) although they did start on the adaptive cruise relatively early on.

    Nowadays all these features are available on 25 thousand dollar cars as options. And I'm not suggesting features is what makes a cadillac by any means, but if its optional on a Honda it needs to be standard on a caddy. For example, why are HIDs still optional? They should be standard with optional LEDs if anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy.Seminerio

    The exports got the headlight angling around corners like the 08+ CTS??
    Infiniti came out with a lot of the safety awareness stuff like lane departure etc. I think cadillac has been reluctant to get into the active safety features (lane keeping assist vs LDW) although they did start on the adaptive cruise relatively early on.

    Nowadays all these features are available on 25 thousand dollar cars as options. And I'm not suggesting features is what makes a cadillac by any means, but if its optional on a Honda it needs to be standard on a caddy. For example, why are HIDs still optional? They should be standard with optional LEDs if anything.
    No the sts only level up and down no left/right adjust via turning.
    I had a cts with it. They sucked. The light output is no where near the sts lamp output especially with intelibeam.

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