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    Re: STS buying advice

    I have the latest map disc. What is a firmware upgrade. Almost every address I punch in it shoots back the house number does not exist in this street message. Of course it DOES exist. Very frustrating. Good thing google maps and the iPhone are so damn good. Couple that with Bluetooth and I'm straight. I do wish the nav system in the caddy was better though. So what exactly is this firmware upgrade. Is it something the dealer does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1BadCadSTS View Post
    The v6 burns something much worse than gas, oil. They eat it big time and have timing chain issues. The v6 wouldn't even be an option IMHO.
    True and the 8 is reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1BadCadSTS View Post
    The v6 burns something much worse than gas, oil. They eat it big time and have timing chain issues. The v6 wouldn't even be an option IMHO.
    I was trying to be impartial but since you broke the ice, I wouldn't keep a V6 STS if you gave me one.

    Opinions vary.

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    Plus the v8 sounds so much more beautiful than the 6. And I've heard both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VivienM View Post

    One thing I've noticed shopping for used cars generally is that very few people seem to get the upgraded sound systems on anything...

    One question about the 15 speaker system: will it output sound out of all 15 speakers from an FM radio source? (presumably using some kind of fake 5.1 surround algorithm)
    Yes...and DVD-A or DTS sources sound unbelievable!
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    Re: STS buying advice

    What do you use to play surround sound compatible music?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy.Seminerio View Post
    What do you use to play surround sound compatible music?
    The nav unit plays DVD-A surround sound.

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    Re: STS buying advice

    yeah saw that in the other thread but it doesn't seem that's very accessible. I think when I had my XM radio trial I was able to choose the centerpoint option. Also I want to avoid using the cd changer. So dvd-a and XM are pretty much my only choices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EChas3

    I was trying to be impartial but since you broke the ice, I wouldn't keep a V6 STS if you gave me one.

    Opinions vary.
    What can I say I'm blunt. I don't voice this out of just reading either. Sister has an 05 srx4 3.6 and it drinks oil badly. 3rd set of cats on it cause of it and when it sits for a few days and then starts you can hear the timing chains clattering. Of course only the 07s got extended coverage on the chains, why, only GM can answer that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy.Seminerio
    yeah saw that in the other thread but it doesn't seem that's very accessible. I think when I had my XM radio trial I was able to choose the centerpoint option. Also I want to avoid using the cd changer. So dvd-a and XM are pretty much my only choices?
    Nav also has a RCA aux input in the center console.

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    Re: STS buying advice

    Quote Originally Posted by VivienM View Post
    I think so? A couple of reasons:
    1) The V8s on the used market here are all 1SGs, which means magnetic ride - the sense I got lurking on this forum is that magnetic ride is extremely costly to maintain?
    2) V8 requires premium gas, which is another cost...
    3) I'm guessing the V6 burns a lot less gas when it's idling. Traffic here in Toronto is quite awful, so I'm hoping the V6 will be a whole lot more efficient sitting in traffic waiting to turn left?

    (Yes, #3 hints at why I'm attracted to this car: I like the ventilated seats and the 15 speaker Bose system for sitting in traffic)
    1. Yes, F55 mag ride is costly to repair out of pocket (had it on my 03 Seville, but not on 11 STS)
    2. I've heard yes and no on the prem gas...I suspect it would run fine on regular but several have told me otherwise
    3. I wouldn't say the V6 burns A LOT less gas...it is slightly more efficient (I average 21-23 mpg commuting, 26-27 on trips)

    I too like the ventilated seats and 15 speaker Bose. However, I wish I had found those options on a V8 model when I was looking. I love my STS, but I loathe the ticking noise box under the hood that is the 3.6 DI. IMO it has no business in a STS.

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    Re: STS buying advice

    Quote Originally Posted by 1BadCadSTS View Post
    Nav also has a RCA aux input in the center console.
    I currently play music with my itouch through the RCA. Specifically it's my headphone jack on the iPod and only 2/3 of the RCA jacks are utilized (not the video). I imagine this isn't sufficient because the files themselves aren't surround sound compatible? I download from iTunes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy.Seminerio
    yeah saw that in the other thread but it doesn't seem that's very accessible. I think when I had my XM radio trial I was able to choose the centerpoint option. Also I want to avoid using the cd changer. So dvd-a and XM are pretty much my only choices?
    DVDs go in the disc changer...And CenterPoint is garbage compared to true Dolby Digital/DTS surround.
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    Re: STS buying advice

    I know where DVDs go thanks. I mean its not easy to have a disc or discs with all your songs and they're Dolby surround sound ready. I thought when center point is available you select it to tap into the surround sound. I've been misinformed I guess.

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    Center point is a DSP setting that takes a stereo signal and fakes it into surround sound.

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    Re: STS buying advice

    Good to know thanks.

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    Re: STS buying advice

    Okay, I went back to the dealer. Confirmed that it shows the 11340 timing chain warranty on the computer for another 4 years and until 193,000km. Given that, the 3.6L shouldn't be too risky?

    (I believe the timing chains fail nicely, too? i.e. you get the P0008 code, and you can get it fixed, rather than having a catastrophic failure at 120km/h on the highway?)

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