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    Re: Project HUD

    If you get this done it will be bad***, im looking forward to you doing this so i can do the same

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    So the only programming needed is to turn it on in the ipm and relearning the brake switch?

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    Re: Project HUD

    Foglamps not US/Can ... what does that do?

    See anything about getting the V cluster features or did you not think to look? or are those all the options related to the IPM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludacrisvp
    Foglamps not US/Can ... what does that do?

    See anything about getting the V cluster features or did you not think to look? or are those all the options related to the IPM?
    Probably has fog lamps remain in whatever state you left them in? Ie had them on shut off car restart they are on again without toggling? Or means export rear fogs.

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    Ah yeah my money is on the rear fogs.

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    Re: Project HUD

    Daddler

    Once turned on in the RIM/IPM will the Nav directions display on the HUD? Or is there some programming needed in the Nav module (radio) to enable that?


    Also for my own amusement dealer said it couldnt be done but can you go under the tech2 manually as an 05 build and see if you can turn on the secure car feature?

    PIC3165A: Windows Will Not Express Up Using the Secure Car Feature - keywords button car control function inaccurate information inoperative lock RKE security - (Feb 16, 2006)
    Subject: Windows Will Not Express Up Using the Secure Car Feature

    Models: 2005-2006 Cadillac STS



    The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

    Condition/Concern:
    The 2005 Cadillac STS owner's manual pages 2-5 and 2-19 incorrectly state that the vehicle is equipped with a "secure car feature" that would allow the customer to express up the vehicles windows by pressing and holding the lock button on the keyless entry transmitter. This feature is not available for 2005 model year.
    For 2006 model year vehicles the feature is available, however, some vehicles were built with the feature disabled. To enable the Secure Car feature on 2006 model year vehicles, perform the following:
    ****•* DIAGNOSTICS
    ****•* PASSENGER CAR
    ****•* CADILLAC
    ****•* D
    ****•* STS
    ****•* BODY & ACCESSORIES
    ****•* KEYLESS ENTRY
    ****•* MODULE SETUP
    ****•* RCDLR
    ****•* SETUP NEW RCDLR

    Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.
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    © 2013 General Motors Corporation.* All rights reserved.

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    I think you need to get a RCDLR from the 06 or newer car in order to do it.

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    I show them as being the same part number though. 07 is different thn 08-09 and then 10+. No idea why.

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    Re: Project HUD

    The 'secure car feature' has been discussed many times on the forum. The conclusion has always ended that only the very latest build 2005's could enjoy this nice feature.

    On the original topic, it does make sense that HUD can be enabled without ACC. HUD was available on its own in many later-model STS but only V8's had ACC.

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    Yes but there is no difference in parts to explain why. Only a difference in programming which should be able to be overridden by a tech 2.

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    Re: Project HUD

    Sorry I couldn't respond sooner, but work was getting in the way

    I believe when turned on, the HUD will display navigation information without further programming of the radio. Of course to try will determine this for sure. It makes sense though base on my past experiences. Personally, I would connect the HUD in a test configuration before taking your dash apart. From a person who's had his dash out twice, it is a fair amount of work if it turns out this is not going to work.

    In regards to the configuration change, it has been my experience that changing an option setting in the IPM is automatically mirrored in the RIM and requires no direct interaction with the RIM. The BPP calibration is a separate procedure, also completed through the IPM menu options.

    I suspect the 'V' series cluster will have different firmware as it is a different part number and is for a different application. It would make sense that information broadcast to it will be based upon the engine option selected through the IPM configuration.

    I believe the Fog Lights not US/Can is for the rear fog lights. Even though I have enabled this, my car does not retain the last state selected during the previous ignition cycle.

    As far as the "Secure Car" feature, while the module part number may be the same, the software loaded into the module when installed or replaced is different. This is not as simple as changing a setting with the Tech2. I had looked for a past member a long time back. This requires the use of GM's SPS (Service Programming System). You may be able to get a module from an '06 with a newer calibration already loaded to work, however the RCDLR is an integral part of several other systems in the vehicle and you may inherit a whole new set of problems. This component plays a key role in lock/unlock status, remote start, TPMS, etc.

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    Makes sense except if my rcdlr were to fail they would replace it. It would come as a blank slate no programming. Since an 05 and 06 is the same part they would be flashed with the tech 2 and programmed with whatever options are applicable and then sync it with the vtd so why can't my current 05 rcdlr have the ability for it?

    That's down the road though

    Will be hard to test the HUD if I need it turned on and a tech 2 to do it unless without the option turn on it still gets some data. Could you test turning off your hud in the rim and see if it has any functionality?

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    Re: Project HUD

    GM's SPS is a lot more than a Tech II!

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    Re: Project HUD

    I understand what you're saying about the RCDLR. My guess is there are incompatibilities with software in other modules within the car. GM doesn't use a Tech2 for programming anymore, they use an MDI. With this, there have been changes to how this takes place. Just last week we had a problem with a radio I installed in one of our fleet vehicles a few years back. It had to be replaced and the dealership was unable to program it. They ordered the same part number I had installed. Back then, I was able to use a Tech2 for the programming and I was able to select a calibration of my choice. This allowed me to "trick" the system into letting me program it. Since I don't subscribe to SPS access anymore I can't try many of the things I used to be able to do. Working with the dealer we tried to install the new radio using my past method unsuccessfully. When you use an MDI for programming, it verifies VIN's and part numbers so this is where you'll be stuck.

    I will try changing the option setting in the IPM but I won't get to it tonight. Tomorrow is my Friday so I'll try to get to it over the weekend.

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    Re: Project HUD

    Understand

    I appreciate all the help/advice!

    Just worried if that could end up being the case here with adding the HUD now....

    Already found a good used HUD carrier for 250, was going to pick it up this weekend, replacing that doesnt bother me, I rebuilt an XLR and did a heater core on my old Seville both required removal of the dash carrier.












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