I keep hearing about packages. 1SG, 1SE, 1SF. I have no clue what these mean, what's included in them, nor how to tell what package the car I'm seeing this morning is.
Can someone help with that? The dealer has no clue.
The package will be listed on the option code label that is under the spare tire cover. For a 2005 STS4 I can almost guarantee that the car you are going to see is the top level 1SG package. The packages are 1SF Luxury Performance Package or 1SG Premium Luxury Performance Package. The differences are the 1SG adds 18" wheels, ZF steering gear, a higher performance cooling system and Tuscany leather seats to the 1SF package. Here is a good listing of features:
There are no hard and fast rules here. I have a 1SF with high performance cooling, JE5 brakes, and black Tuscany leather. It all depends on what the dealer thought he could sell.
The package will be listed on the option code label that is under the spare tire cover. For a 2005 STS4 I can almost guarantee that the car you are going to see is the top level 1SG package. The packages are 1SF Luxury Performance Package or 1SG Premium Luxury Performance Package. The differences are the 1SG adds 18" wheels, ZF steering gear, a higher performance cooling system and Tuscany leather seats to the 1SF package. Here is a good listing of features:
I hope so. The dealer said he didn't know. I'm at the. Us station now waiting to be picked up by their shuttle. I did an Edmonds VIN check for free, and under trim it said base. That was concerning to me. Will it actually say 1SG? The tires "look" low enough profile to be 50's but can't be sure. Looks like 8 spoke or so though.
There are no hard and fast rules here. I have a 1SF with high performance cooling, JE5 brakes, and black Tuscany leather. It all depends on what the dealer thought he could sell.
Gotcha. Well I guess I'll look when I get there. Will it actually say 1SG, etc. on the underside of that Matt-like cardboard spare tire cover? And did U see the picture or it from the link I posted?
Well I'm in the shuttle on the way now. I hope it's 1SG. Disappointed of it isn't. But I guess we will she here shortly. The pictures are very basic looking as far as seats. Description just says leather.
Almost all of the 2005 STS4 cars were 1SG cars...they were the absolute top of the STS line. I would be very surprised if it isn't a 1SG car. The Tuscany and Nuance leathers look almost the same. The Tuscany is softer so they aren't easy to tell apart in photos. Keep us posted!
1SG on the spare cover. Tuscany leather, Eucalyptus wood, 235/50R/18's on front and 245/50R/18's on back. NAV DVD is version 1 though. Think it's 2004 version it says. A little pulsation when coming to stops. Looked at rotars. A little rust from sitting. A light roaring when coming to stop. Sounds like its the 50's and that Dunlop treat. Runs good.
Check the stickers on the drivers doors for the correct tire size. I believe the proper rear tire size is 255/45/18 not 255/50/18.
Aren't you the one with the poor mileage as well? This will throw off your DIC, will cause extra strain on the engine /transmission and can cause a clearance issue because that tire is bigger than the OE tire size, i.e. larger overall diameter.
I thought so...sounds like a good deal. I would whine about the brakes and see if you can get a better deal. That's the factory nav disc. You can get a newer one on eBay pretty cheap.
hmm wonder what he decided on if the Op went out to look at others or if he got the 05 he was checking out of if he got on a bus and went home without one hmm
ok so you drove 4 where all 4 at the same dealer
2 where ok wich 2 where it that where Ok
For the 05 2sg thats the one you got ?
I'm Beat i know what that means LOL
ok so you drove 4 where all 4 at the same dealer
2 where ok wich 2 where it that where Ok
For the 05 2sg thats the one you got ?
I'm Beat i know what that means LOL
Two at RJ's were OK. One at KDK was OK, and one at KDK was one they thought they knew what they had but they didn't. That's the one I got. The 05 with 146k miles was sweet. It was base pkg. they thought the one I chose was base too. They said the mileage on each was what seperated them in price.
They have a fat, arrogant dude there named Mike that almost. Caused me to walk out. Owner's dad came out. I made them do new oil change cause I didn't see the sticker. The short, fat guy said it was new oil on the stick. No sticker... no selli me car.
So. I drove straight bck from Cleveland.
Now I gotta find a manual. I hear it's online somewhere. Can't find it.
Their is also a Yahoo managed / Cadillac approved site that had the '05 manuals, and I'll post its link as soon as I find it. GM is moving these on-line resources around on us, hopefully it's still out there...
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It's definitely a moving target, but it's still there.
This link will bounce around but does end up at a legit site. Register your VIN here and you should be able to get all the manuals in PDF form for your car.
The white 2005 STS4 they have there also looks like it is a 1SG car to me...but the black one you bought looks like it is in MUCH better shape...especially the interior.
Anyways, thanks! The white one had 1sf under the tire cover.
I think there's a bulb out. When I use the Remote Start, there's a VERY small needle-like light comes on. Well the drivers light is the only one that does. I don't even know what that light is for.
Next, need to find the most recent NAV CD. I think it's 09.
Finally, someone replaced the upgraded grill with this plastic one U saw. I know it because they left off the front plastic section of the engine cover, as well as left some screws missing. So now, if I blow the horn really hard, the hood ajar light comes on and it chimes.
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And I want another custom grill. Any suggestions on used ones?
it means he wants to see pictures of the car or you didn't get a car thats what he wants
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I think the latest Nav disc for your 05 sts would be 2011
because i belive it uses the same as the Corvettes the SAAB 9-5 and one other model it shares with if im correct
Newest disc can be had cheap if you know how to do "it"
Any pictures of the grille this car has or the car itself?
The light you refer to is a 194 bulb and a monster to try and change it requires pulling the front fascia unless you have small hands or are flexible to change it through the side cover door...
Thanks for flowing me over here PUP! Drive by KDK and report back whether the Black Raven 1SG is still present. And the snap a pick of the vacant spot where it sat in front of the main window. Also, I'm using the mobile app and it's saying my file type is t sized correctly. Will post pics in about 4 hours.
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But the mobile app allowed me to update my profile pic. There's the new whip.
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And I wonder if there's a way to dial the phone without the car having to be stopped. . It's really unknown annoying. As well as change the navigation. There has got to be an override.
If U mean from me, refer back to my post about uploading from my mobile. I'm not back to a desktop yet. But, it is my profile pic (which I notice U do NOT have). More to come when I get HOME.
This one had the mesh grille. The previous owner put it in his new car one of the mechanics said. I want a mesh custom one, or another custom type aftermarket that looks cool.
Also, someone mentioned a.... "lockout" device of somekind to help with the screen locking when I take my foot off the brake. I have no clue what that is nor how to get it. And, is it costly?
My thoughts, exactly,,,,,,,,,,,or it also looks similar to the ,08-12 CTS. In short, it looks like the post-07 models.
It' all question of taste, after all, come like the egg-crate look, and some like the mesh.
For me, the egg-crate style shouts, "CADILLAC."
At one time the mesh style used to resemble a Bently. Now that everybody does it, it looks like a Chrysler 300.
As you might guess, I actually preferred the 300 when it had the egg-crate grille, because -of course - it looked like a Cadillac grille.
And while I'm on the subject, I never really liked the mesh grille on the Bentley when it first appeared. I thought it looked cheap.
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