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    caddyfat2 is offline Cadillac Owners Fanatic
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    Re: Sooo not happy.

    My FSM is the dealer. LOL

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    Re: Sooo not happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by caddyfat2 View Post
    My FSM is the dealer. LOL
    FSM = Factory Service Manual??? If so, I do have that program on my computer. Along with manuals for just about every GM vehicle.

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    Slee_Stack is offline Cadillac Owners Fanatic
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    Re: Sooo not happy.

    Some people prefer not to work on their car. Nothing wrong with that. But one can still find a good independent mechanic if they ask around and save money that way.

    I change my own oil on the Caddy but don't on my truck. The truck has a skid plate thats a PITA to remove. Its not worth the $20 savings for me to mess with the truck. I take it to a Jiffy lube type place and let them hassle with it. The cost savings is worth it to do my own change on the Caddy though. Some wouldn't want to change their own oil to save $50+. We all have our lines in the sand.

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    turnne is offline Cadillac Owners Connoisseur
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    Re: Sooo not happy.

    Quote Originally Posted by dkozloski View Post
    The same guy that will buy a $65,000 car and won't spend $140 on a FSM is the same guy that'll buy a $350,000 house and won't hire a $350 attorney to look over the details for him; penny wise and dollar foolish.
    Ok...a couple of things
    These cars don't sell for anywhere near sticker...most were leased on a very subsidized GM lease program
    A program that made a LOT of lease returns that sold for 1/3 of their stickers 3 years later

    A car that REALLY COST $65K( or worth anywhere near that) is not being repaired by the owners...why would they buy a manual

    Hopefully you can see that after these cars get more than 5 years old and 75K miles the value has fallen like a stone...and what you find on the used car market...condition wise..has fallen drastically as well

    So..I ask the the person that does not plow thousands into an older STS penny wise and dollar foolish..or is it the other way around?

    I say that because after that time the value of the car and repairs start to be come much closer in actual $$$


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    Re: Sooo not happy.

    regardless of price, what person who intends to DIY their car repairs (specifically cadillac) doesn't buy a factory manual or an subscription or comparable service manual (ie, not a haynes book)

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