Cadillac STS Forum - 2005 through 2012 Discussion, '05 STS Production Scheduled for June 1st. in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Originally Posted by EgyptianQueen
Vehicles are not produced then shipped. There are new quality assurance guidelines that need to be ...
Vehicles are not produced then shipped. There are new quality assurance guidelines that need to be followed. Vehicles are tested and tested over again to assure that the line is producing vehicles according to the quality standards. You never know: GM may sit on these cars considering that they are having issues with suppliers.
Incorrect. Even the XLR which goes through an ***extensive*** testing & QC cycle after production, still reaches dealerships within 1-2 weeks after production. Once retail production starts, the STS will be produced during the weekly cycle, then will begin to ship immediately, just as every other Cadillac does. The STS is not slated for the XLR-style QC process. We've been receiving our 2005 Cadillacs approximately 14 days after the TPW date.
I would bite my tongue if I were you.
Me? No tongue biting here. The production everyone is interested in hasn't started yet, period. It won't start for a while, period.
There may be models that were produced, but these are not retail units. These are probably test vehicles and some that will be placed on training circuit as well as in stables for the up coming autoshows.
Isn't that exactly what I said? I believe everyone's desire is to know when actual *retail production* begins. The fact that only 10 were built last week (based on the link above) indicates that retail production has not started. The production that begins on June 21st are the dealer demo production (the units ordered through the DOSP cycle), the first of the dealer production, but not the retail production everyone is interested in. Also include the fact that the plant will shutdown for two weeks in accordance to DOSP cycles on July 1 and July 8.
Maybe I should explain more about these demos too. These are not very good packaged cars. The STSs we were given to order were limited packaged or forced package cars. All the colors were not available either. These are intended to be demo cars. These are being produced TPW (Target Production Week) June 21st through first week of August.
We just got our first normal production allocation units to order the week of Jun 24th for TPW Aug 9.
2005 STS Demo Guide (came separate from the GM Test Drive memo):
-These units will be included within the consensus for April (June - August Initial production).
-Dealers will receive their limited demo allocation based on the STS launch formula with the largest dealers receiving their allocation first.
-Initial production will run until August, with the largest dealers receiving their demo units first.
-You may order either a V6 or V8 for your demo unit(s); however, V6 availability for these initial demo orders will be limited to approximately 45%. Also the base vehicles, V6 1SA and V8 1SD, will not be available for demo orders and the V8 1SF package will be limited to 10% of V8 demo orders. In addition, sunroof availability on these initial orders may not be at your desired level which could eliminate the availability of other packages. We are in the process of increasing sunroof availability so it is in place by start of regular production in August.
You said that dealers would be limited to the colors that are available.
Does that mean there will be mostly silver STSs at first, like there were with the STS?
Here's exact info. Of the V8 STSs that are in the system within 500 miles (50 units)
2 are Blue Chip, 6 are Red Line, 4 are Silver Smoke, 23 are Light Platinum, and 15 are Black.
Of the V6's (42 units), 6 Red Line, 2 Silver Smoke, 8 Black, and 26 are Light Platinum...
If I remember right, White Diamond, Moonstone, and Sand Storm were on 100% constraint (not available). Blue Chip and Red Line were like 25% or something, and Black and Light Platinum was completely open.
STS ordering is still closed. VOMS system is still locked on STS ("Available Nationally: No") until next week, as it has been since the only two weeks it was open back in May. This week represents Target Production Period of July 19 - July 25, but the STS cannot be ordered. Next week it looks like it opens up (we have 4 allocated units next week), but I won't know the TPP until next week. There is 2 weeks where there is no activity between TPP July 26 - Aug 1 and Aug 2 - Aug 8 (possible plant summer closure?). This would put actual retail production of customer/dealer orders to start production in beginning of August for end of August deliveries.
FYI: It's June 22nd (the day after retail production was supposed to begin), and not a single dealer order has even broadcast for production (something that happens the weekend before production begins).
"Retail Production Begins" does not mean that they immediately start building the cars. Retail production encompasses allocating cars to dealers, dealers then building their orders, submitting their orders, the system then goes through the whole scheduling system internally, then the car is built, then it is shipped, then delivered. This is the "Retail Production" that started the week of June 21st.
No vehicles are yet produced for Dealer Demo's or Customer orders. See next post.
The June 21st date was the appropriate date, but it was "the week of June 21st". Retail Production opened up today, June 24th, the first day of this weeks order cycle. These first Retail Production units are scheduled to be BUILT the period of July 26 - August 1st, for delivery around mid-to-end of August depending on how far your dealer is away from the plant. Some dealers around the plant could see STSs hit their lot by the first week of August!
Dealers will enter their first Retail Production (or Customer) orders this week, they will be accepted next week, and begin the internal scheduling process for build between July 26 - August 1. Allocation will be scattered, with only a mild amount of allocated units available to dealers to order over the next couple of weeks, so production will still be slower than normal, but will ramp up into September.
The original date for Supplier System Fill (SSF) was May 28, with Start of Production (SOP) being 6/1. SOP was then pushed back to 6/14, then 6/21 (i think), now it's set for 7/19 after shutdown. GM has this mandate for "Flawless Launches," even if it means pushing back the launch by nearly 2 months. It could be a problem with the body, engine, chassis, any part of the car. Hopefully this thing will get launched soon.
On a side note, I got to drive one 2 weeks ago. Picked up my husband to show him how it was. It was the dark blue color, lt. cashmere interior, V6. It's very peppy and has a great ride. I'd buy one.