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Cadillac STS Forum - 2005 through 2012 Discussion, Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad? in Past Cadillac Vehicle Discussion; Originally Posted by dkozloski Alaska has a $40 Billion savings account and returns the earnings to the residents of the ...
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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by dkozloski View Post
    Alaska has a $40 Billion savings account and returns the earnings to the residents of the state. This year the checks to every man, woman, and child will be $1654. It goes to show what government can do for you if you know how. When Michigan was riding the gravey train they could have invested the money rather than pissing it away on welfare to people that won't work.
    Yeah they did give a piss pot of money away, to Corporations and their CEOs at the same time they were cutting taxes to the same group. Makes it rough for the workers that can't work cause there are no jobs to find and Social welfare had been cut to the bone in order to have money for Corporate welfare.


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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmbo View Post
    Yeah they did give a piss pot of money away, to Corporations and their CEOs at the same time they were cutting taxes to the same group. Makes it rough for the workers that can't work cause there are no jobs to find and Social welfare had been cut to the bone in order to have money for Corporate welfare.
    Wow Jimmbo, I can't believe you are complaining IN A PUBLIC FORUM when we have ALL THE KOOLAID WE CAN DRINK! SSSSSHH!! Let the Dear Leader take care of these UN-AMERICAN comments lest we expose ourselves for the Communists we are. VERY SOON, they vill understand the FOLLY of their simplistic CAPITALISM! Vee must endure the job shortage until the greater good is DONE! There vill be bread and water for EVERYONE!!!

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaddyLackerz View Post
    Wow Jimmbo, I can't believe you are complaining IN A PUBLIC FORUM when we have ALL THE KOOLAID WE CAN DRINK! SSSSSHH!! Let the Dear Leader take care of these UN-AMERICAN comments lest we expose ourselves for the Communists we are. VERY SOON, they vill understand the FOLLY of their simplistic CAPITALISM! Vee must endure the job shortage until the greater good is DONE! There vill be bread and water for EVERYONE!!!
    Take out the word Communists and insert the word 'Fascists' then your statement will be accurate.

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesda View Post
    $2k is DIRT cheap compared to the complex and expensive repairs on some German and Japanese cars with fully active suspension systems. Magneride is a fantastic bang for the buck, even when it breaks.
    Actually its about the same cost to repair on the Germans
    Mercedes Benz airmatic is about the same repair costs

    However....what you might consider using the Lincoln Mark 8 mentioned here as an example

    In a car that is worth lets say $4000 the average person cannot or will not invest $4000 into fixing the suspension

    Case in point..how many Lincoln do you see that are "low -riders"..or how many Cadillacs from say the late 90 to early 2000 with the suspension warning lights on along with the check engine light

    If the Benz airmatic goes out it gives the same "low rider" scene as the Lincoln...but when the car is worth 20-30K it probably has a better chance of being repaired

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by ahuyghe View Post
    I certainly can answer that.
    They can and will fail.
    2007 Cadillac STS4, 59000 kms. discovered Failure 2010/06/28
    Both front shocks leaking.
    Replaced under warranty.

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    $980.00 ea plus labour to R+R
    Although it's an interesting and advanced system on paper, steer clear of it on a used car unless you have a totally unlimited warranty that truly covers it. It's always interesting to watch what GM employess will buy as their own personal cars and magnaride is never one of them. Since the 3.6 DI came out, N* is another one to stay away from.

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    LOL..that's interesting

    I have always thought Magride was one of those deals that sounded great on paper but never really seemed to add a whole lot in practice

    Trouble is that its bundled in such a s way that you cannot get a fully optioned car without it

    before I had the 05 ..I owned an 02 with Magride..and before that an 01 Aurora 4.0

    I will tell you other than some body roll control the 02 with Magride wasn't a whole letter better handling than the Aurora with some generic Monroe replacement strut and shock replacements....especially whn you conder the replacement Monroe's cost about $1000( parts and labor) and the same job on the STS would have been $4000

    Was the STS better..yes....but maybe to the tune of a $1500 total price...not $4000
    I traded the 02 before i thought it was time to do any suspension work...I was not going to pay $4000 for suspension work on a $4000 car


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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    I was gonna come on here to ask this question yesterday. I'm currently driving a rental 2010 Buick Lacrosse and I realize its brand new and all but how much smoother should it be than my 05 STS? I realized when going over the same bumps I always go over coming home from work (which are pretty bad) and barely feeling them in the Lacrosse. In my STS I actually slow almost to a stop over these spots because it feels like I'm gonna kill the rims. And I have the stock 17's on it nothing crazy.

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    I don't think you'd damage the 17" wheels unless you've fitted very low-profile tires (30-series or less). As far as ride, you're comparing GM's attempts to target the markets of BMW & Lexus (or thereabouts). That's more of a contrast than a comparison.

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    I have a 2006 sts with magnetic ride suspension. I just replaced the 2 front shocks and the upper control arms ( only because the upper shock mounts are attached to the upper control arms ). I did all the work myself and it wasnt very hard. Everything just unbolted fine. The only thing that was an issue was switching the spings from the old shocks to the new ones. I brought it to a local mechanic shop and they only charged me 90 bucks to switch the springs. I bought the oem replacment shocks from rockauto .com. they were $ 350 each which isnt bad. I hope this helps.

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    When I had my 05 STS in for a oil change the mechanical notice one off my front shocks leaking of course I had to replace both you know how that goes anyways it was around $1500 to replace both..

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    It looks like you can purchase the shocks on Rock Auto for 291 apiece. My 07 STS AWD has both front shocks leaking. I am investigating doing it myself. I also have a broken engine mount that looks really fun to fix. My car has just over 97K miles on it.

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    Researching for my future replacement but considering modifying the oem F55. Does anyone know if the computer control to shocks changes the voltage - amperage or is it like the fuel injectors (pulse width) ? Has anyone looked at this signal with an oscilloscope? Thanks in advance

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    This is a super old thread and probably worth starting your own new thread, especially since your question doesn't really relate to the original topic. But short answer, yes, the signal does change depending on the degree of damping the ESC module deems is necessary.

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by CWB View Post
    Researching for my future replacement but considering modifying the oem F55. Does anyone know if the computer control to shocks changes the voltage - amperage or is it like the fuel injectors (pulse width) ? Has anyone looked at this signal with an oscilloscope? Thanks in advance
    Have fun. It's an incredibly dynamic voltage/current signal to magnetic coils around the strut/shock fluid orifice - that signal changes the viscosity of the ferrous fluid instantly, from 10W oil to hard jelly and back, in less than .001 second.

    The F55 system uses inputs from over a dozen sensors to control the suspension. There are inputs for vehicle speed, wheel speed, engine power, transmission gear, torque output, body roll, pitch, yaw, steering wheel position, actual turn radius, desired turn radius, brake application, others.

    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...pension+system

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    Re: Do Magnetic Ride Shock units wear out or go bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by CWB View Post
    Researching for my future replacement but considering modifying the oem F55. Does anyone know if the computer control to shocks changes the voltage - amperage or is it like the fuel injectors (pulse width) ? Has anyone looked at this signal with an oscilloscope? Thanks in advance
    I haven't heard that question in a long time...gave me active duty flashbacks

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