Price High Styling Laacking 2005 STS/ E 500

[Brett]

Originally Posted by gothicaleigh

You're not trying to compare an STS to a K car now, are you?

yeah, those K cars sucked, i never could get the HUD or adaptive cruise control to work right

[rueben44]

Ok people put the pipes down!!! Instead of making these assumptions that are incorrect why don't you look at the measurement of the STS wheel base and that of the Benz. Also look at the interior dimensions and tell me which one is bigger. If some had a clue they would realize that the STS is a bigger car than any other model in its class. It competes with the 5 series and E class and it is closer in size to their bigger models. I will bet those that are commenting on the STS being this or that have not even seen it in person.

[rueben44]

Ok so the Benz starts at $49000 and the STS starts at 41,000! And some of you think the STS is over priced. That is for the V6 benz at that. The V8 Cadillac starts at $48000 and that is cheaper than a base Benz with a V6. Like I said put the pipes down. Now look at these number and tell me how is it the STS is so small inside when it is bigger than the Benz.

BMW 5-series
Leg Room(front)....................41.5
Leg Room (rear).....................36.0
Head Room(front)..................37.7
Head Room(rear)...................37.9
Shoulder Room(front).............57.3
Shoulder Room(rear)...............57.2

Cadillac STS
Leg Room(front)...................42.6
Leg Room (rear)...................38.3
Head Room(front).................38.7
Head Room(rear)..................37.9
Shoulder Room(front)............58.6
Shoulder Room(rear)..............57.4

Mercedes 320 Sedan

Exterior Dimensions

Wheelbase 112.4 in/2,854 mm

Overall length 189.7 in/4,815 mm

Overall height 57.2 in/1,452 mm

Overall width 71.3 in/ 1,810 mm

Front track 61.4 in/ 1,559 mm

Rear track 61.1 in/1,552 mm

Coefficient of drag 0.27

Curb weight 3,691 lb/1,675 kg

Interior Dimensions1

Front headroom 37.4 in/951 mm

Rear headroom 37.7 in/957 mm

Front legroom 41.9 in/1,065 mm

Rear legroom 35.6 in/ 903 mm

Front shoulder Room 56.4 in/1,432 mm

Rear shoulder Room 56.1 in/1,424 mm

Cabin capacity 97.2 cu ft/2752.0 liters

Cargo capacity 15.9 cu ft/450.0 liters

[gothicaleigh]

Again:

Cadillac CTS
Leg Room (front)...................42.4
Leg Room (rear)....................36.2
Head Room (front).................38.9
Head Room (rear)..................36.9
Shoulder Room (front)............56.6
Shoulder Room (rear)..............56.2

BMW 5-series
Leg Room(front)....................41.5
Leg Room (rear).....................36.0
Head Room(front)..................37.7
Head Room(rear)...................37.9
Shoulder Room(front).............57.3
Shoulder Room(rear)...............57.2

2004 SeVille
Leg room(front).....................42.5
Leg Room(front).....................38.2
Head Room(front)...................38.2
Head Room(rear)....................38.0
Shoulder Room(front)..............59.1
Shoulder Room(rear)...............58.0

2005 STS
Leg Room(front)...................42.6
Leg Room (rear)...................38.3
Head Room(front).................38.7
Head Room(rear)..................37.9
Shoulder Room(front)............58.6
Shoulder Room(rear)..............57.4

BMW 7 series
Leg Room(front)...................41.9
Leg Room (rear)...................38.4
Head Room(front).................39.2
Head Room(rear)..................38.5
Shoulder Room(front)............59.3
Shoulder Room(rear)..............58.7

The STS looks to have very close to the interior dimensions of the largest Bimmer...

[strindl]

Originally Posted by jerseyvette

To address your price issue: We all know that GM is insane on every option mark-up. Take a Navigation system on a CTS, isn't it like $3000 extra on the car's price.(
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No...it's an 1800 option, but also includes the XM satellite radio and Bose upgrades. Try buying something similiar after market at your local electronics supermarket, and you'll be close to the same price..and it won't be nearly as well integrated into the car.

[ktills45]

Originally Posted by Slick V

Your a moron, im done wasteing my time with you.

LOL, my thoughts exactly

[Vesicant]

Ok... i made a nice dividing line on the passenger side... makes that big ol empty space occupied.




Comments? I have some more things i could do to it.. but this is just a start.

[majax]

you didnt do anything to it

[M STaR 013]

ya know whats gonna be frickin awsome about the STS is the sound system! straight from the caddy site:

The STS is the first vehicle to offer the Bose Studio Surround System


• Delivers true discrete 5.1 surround sound, a sound experience previously reserved only for cinemas and home theaters
• 15 advanced Bose speakers, the most of any prestige luxury sedan
• Plays the widest variety of disc formats available on the market today
• Delivers a 360° sound experience for each passenger
• Integrated with infotainment system to deliver exceptional audio from DVDs. When the vehicle is in park, passengers can also enjoy DVD video on an 8-inch diagonal display, one of the largest high-resolution displays available

360 degree surround sound for EVERY passenger?! how do they do it! i wanna hear!

[Jesda]

Originally Posted by megeebee

It's probably more accurate to say the a mid-line Infiniti looks like a Cadillac, rather than the other way 'round. Nissan/Infiniti has done a very good job of copying the themes of the Evoq concept car since its introduction in 1999.

Bzzzt!

Youre referring to the slow-selling M45 (but still outsold the Lexus GS430), which is an old design that came out in Japan as a Nissan in the late 90s. It was imported to the US as a stopgap until the new M45 comes out, which has MB/Jaguar lights and a G35 rear end. Every other Infiniti looks too round to look like a Cadillac (Q45, I35, FX, G35)

-Jesda

[Jesda]

Originally Posted by M STaR 013

ya know whats gonna be frickin awsome about the STS is the sound system! straight from the caddy site:

The STS is the first vehicle to offer the Bose Studio Surround System


• Delivers true discrete 5.1 surround sound, a sound experience previously reserved only for cinemas and home theaters
• 15 advanced Bose speakers, the most of any prestige luxury sedan
• Plays the widest variety of disc formats available on the market today
• Delivers a 360° sound experience for each passenger
• Integrated with infotainment system to deliver exceptional audio from DVDs. When the vehicle is in park, passengers can also enjoy DVD video on an 8-inch diagonal display, one of the largest high-resolution displays available

360 degree surround sound for EVERY passenger?! how do they do it! i wanna hear!

8-track!

[Vesicant]

Originally Posted by majax

you didnt do anything to it

vs

[Brett]

damn is that subtle, took me a few minutes, but i like it.

[jerseyvette]

Originally Posted by Slick V

Your a moron, im done wasteing my time with you.

You have any more comments?

[Caddy Man]

i still dont see what you did did u widen the center console and dash just a little bit?