Cadillac STS Forum - 2005 through 2010Forum for discussions regarding the new Sigma-based STS model. Not for Cadillac "Seville" discussions (2004 and older).
So title says it all, do you think the STS is dated already: yes or no? Not talking interior or hightech-wise. Just by the looks of the car.
After already 3 year of ownership I don't think the STS is dated (yet). Everytime I see it, I must say "damn this looks good". Even if you compare it with the competition.
Perhaps it's cause you hardly see one here in Europe so I don't know what others (Americans) think of it.
The original "STS" - maybe a touch because it looks too similar to the original CTS - and there are SO many of those around (at least here). Still, I like the look of the STS. Now the 08 I find much nicer - and the changes are very subtle. Mainly just the grille and side vents.. They all really look good to me - but the original might be a touch dated in my eyes. I certainly wouldn't mind owning one, however.
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You can't see the outside while you're driving down the road so it doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference what it looks like unless you are so insecure in your own skin you feel you need to make some sort of visual statement to the general pulic.
I am not sure what you mean by dated. We are talking automobiles, carefully and thoughtfully designed in periods before introduction, not suits of clothes that are at the whim of floaty designers. Style is something you continually change in order to sell more products to those who don't need it but must be "up-to-date." The economy thrives on style, but most people who appreciate things for their worth and value are not driven by style.
To be dated could mean no longer effective, not valuable, not efficient, or just discardable.
Look at some of the classic Cadillacs that are enjoyed by owners and onlookers. Some of my favorites are the 1941 convertible, the 1954 DeVille, and lets not forget the beautiful 1958 El Dorado. In other car lines there are some really striking vehicles with styling done by some famous people. To own one of these cars mans enjoyment, pride, and personal statement. Sure, it doesn't have the latest high-tech gadgets and fancy, exotic materials. It has the appreciation of good design and application of materials to serve a specific purpose.
Early in the twenties and thirties GM figured out that if you add a curve here and a crease there you could fool the public into thinking the latest model was a must have item, even as the chassis and running gear were the same every year. The body shell is a cosmetic cover to hid the mechanicals and provide passenger comfort.
My current vehicle of choice, 2006 STS 1Sg is now three years behind in numbers, and more in design, yet it does what it supposed to do and does it well. Does this make my neighbor jealous? I could care less. Do I feel inadequate that I do not have the latest offering? Oh, hell no.
As a teenager and young adult my cars were ten years or older that I paid $1,000 for and drove hard and fast until they were finally accepted by the local junk yard. I was always happy with these beasts of the road and wished I still had some of them. Dated? No way. Modern? Very.
No, the STS is not dated in any way. Besides, except for some colors, a tad touch of chrome, and some visual effects in the interior, this generation has not changed at all. It is as up to date as any STS on the showroom floor. Interestingly, the looks of the interior of my STS look similar to the three generations behind it. It evolved, not just came about. I enjoy that.
I am not sure what you mean by dated. We are talking automobiles, carefully and thoughtfully designed in periods before introduction, not suits of clothes that are at the whim of floaty designers. Style is something you continually change in order to sell more products to those who don't need it but must be "up-to-date." The economy thrives on style, but most people who appreciate things for their worth and value are not driven by style.
To be dated could mean no longer effective, not valuable, not efficient, or just discardable.
Look at some of the classic Cadillacs that are enjoyed by owners and onlookers. Some of my favorites are the 1941 convertible, the 1954 DeVille, and lets not forget the beautiful 1958 El Dorado. In other car lines there are some really striking vehicles with styling done by some famous people. To own one of these cars mans enjoyment, pride, and personal statement. Sure, it doesn't have the latest high-tech gadgets and fancy, exotic materials. It has the appreciation of good design and application of materials to serve a specific purpose.
Early in the twenties and thirties GM figured out that if you add a curve here and a crease there you could fool the public into thinking the latest model was a must have item, even as the chassis and running gear were the same every year. The body shell is a cosmetic cover to hid the mechanicals and provide passenger comfort.
My current vehicle of choice, 2006 STS 1Sg is now three years behind in numbers, and more in design, yet it does what it supposed to do and does it well. Does this make my neighbor jealous? I could care less. Do I feel inadequate that I do not have the latest offering? Oh, hell no.
As a teenager and young adult my cars were ten years or older that I paid $1,000 for and drove hard and fast until they were finally accepted by the local junk yard. I was always happy with these beasts of the road and wished I still had some of them. Dated? No way. Modern? Very.
No, the STS is not dated in any way. Besides, except for some colors, a tad touch of chrome, and some visual effects in the interior, this generation has not changed at all. It is as up to date as any STS on the showroom floor. Interestingly, the looks of the interior of my STS look similar to the three generations behind it. It evolved, not just came about. I enjoy that.
Very well said. If you feel your STS is "dated" you have been successfully manipulated by Madison Avenue.
You can't see the outside while you're driving down the road so it doesn't make a hell of a lot of difference what it looks like unless you are so insecure in your own skin you feel you need to make some sort of visual statement to the general pulic.
You made me laugh, I guess you somehow don't understand me.
First of all, I don't care what other people think of what you drive, how it looks, how fast it is etc, I was just talking about the model itself as there are no ""faults"" in it imho.
What's the reason you bought the cadillac, don't tell me because it's the best sedan on the roads, it's the total package.
I still think it looks real good. In fact, Cadillac has influenced quite a few other car companies design; so I think it started as the leader and the others are just now catching up. (And Cadillac is moving forward, in design, i.e. the new CTS and the upcoming XLR)
My 2006 STS V lease runs out next year, so I've started shopping. Although I wouldn't get the same car twice, I still think the STS looks really good. I've been in the Audi A8 and Mercedes - but they didn't really move me. I think Caddy has MUCH better radio and nav interfaces (I have the touch screen nav unit).
I think I'm going to get a 2009 CTS V to replace the STS.
The only thing dated is the POS bluetooth intermittent pairing issue and perhaps a lack of true iPod integration.
I had a couple rush meetings last week and drove instead of flying @800miles, got 24 mpg, enjoyed the radar cruise control, heads up display (non polarized sunglasses, of course) XM, etc.
I might even burn some more fuel and drive to a friends 45 b-day party in FLA, just because the experience was so terrific.
I really like the looks of the new CTS's, which to me are just catching up our STS's.
Updated electronics in the communications department are my only complaint.
