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Old 05-14-08, 12:38 PM
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Re: Car Spinning Out of Control

You basically own a stealth, comfy 4 door vette.

If it's raining, be very light on the skinny pedal, particularly starting and tuning at the same time!

It is part of the fun part of the car once you learn to control it.....

Leave it in the garage if it snows. Unless you have brass b**** or Blizzaks!

Be careful and enjoy,

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Re: Car Spinning Out of Control

The option everybody has and is the simplest of all is to just slow down and take it easy when driving conditions are bad. If the car gets snakey on a wet road when you gun it then don't do it. If you can't control your car under adverse circumstances maybe you shouldn't be driving. Bob Bondurant and Jim Russell both have excellent driving schools that can help you define your limits.
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Re: Car Spinning Out of Control

The traction control and especially the stability control in the STS is not as aggressive as it s/b. I have both in my Corvette with 450 HP and feel much safer on wet roads with those management system assisting then I do in the STS. Granted you have to learn but not sure why they don't kick in sooner.
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The option everybody has and is the simplest of all is to just slow down and take it easy when driving conditions are bad. If the car gets snakey on a wet road when you gun it then don't do it. If you can't control your car under adverse circumstances maybe you shouldn't be driving. Bob Bondurant and Jim Russell both have excellent driving schools that can help you define your limits.
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Re: Car Spinning Out of Control

I have an 05 RWD with the Northstar V8. I have only experienced a similar reaction from the car when I accelerate too hard in the rain. I found if I use a lighter foot, I don't have a problem. You did mention that you were leaving the pump. I wonder if someone had spilled some oil in the area where you were filling up. A little oil on the tires and your tires will spin everywhere.
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Re: Car Spinning Out of Control

I am sure we'll see this again on the 2009 CTS-V group's threads when that beast hits the streets.

Only better will be the questions about how it handles in the snow!

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I am on my second '05 STS (V6,RWD) and never had the lost of control issue with my first STS but am seeing it on my latest one. Scary as hell in traffic. I am running Michelin tires but I do not think they are the same ones as on my first '05 STS. I thought maybe my latest STS have a different rear suspenion set up (torsion bar diameter?) but after reading this thread am starting to think I'm screwed until I need a new set of tires.

the responsible engineer should be fired...

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These cars are very snakey in the snow and rain. I wouldn't even consider driving it with the traction control and stability system off; it's bad enough even with these systems active on the RWD cars.

On the money!!!
Welcome to raw RWD power, it reminds me of my teen years! I have even had my AWD sideways momentarly with the TC off until the stabilitrac kicked it and I wipped the TC back on. (This was on a couple inches of fresh snow)
I would never turn off the TC unless you want to "PLAY"!
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Re: Car Spinning Out of Control

Hey all,

I went with the Pilot Sport AS's 255's all the way around and she really drives like a different car in the rain, for what it's worth.

Not the cheapest tires by any means but no accidental wheel spin or sliding in rain yet....

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Re: Car Spinning Out of Control

No one has mentioned the 'limited slip differential'. Even though you have 'traction control' and 'stability control', the 'locking' rear end, when it 'locks up' because of wheel spin, will cause the car to slide a little left or right depending on which way your turning. Because it distributes power to both rear wheels at the same time and we know that when making a turn the inside wheel normally turns slower than the outside wheel but when the 'limited slip' is activted both wheels turn at the same rate causing the rear of the vehicle to 'slide-out'.
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