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Old 03-05-07, 08:46 AM
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I have an 05 sts V8 with nav. and ACC. I always get the engine light illuminates and it comes and goes frequently.
The reason is from the oxygen sensors in the exhaust system need changing. Will I’m planning to do so but in the next service for 50K. As some of you know, when this light come off the remote start is disabled and you can only start the car normally.
Is there any trick or a hint to clear it without going to the dealer?

I'll be glad if someone could answer my request.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-06-07, 11:23 PM
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

Sorry, I don't know the answer to you question, but it still should be under warranty. Right?
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

Why do you say the O2 sensors need changed?
What are the codes you are seeing?

There is no way to clear the codes manually, you need a scan tool, or the self tests for the code have to run and pass several times.
You can try disconnecting the battery and holding the cable ends together for a couple minutes.

If the codes you are seeing are P0171 and P0174 I'll tell you right now, changing the O2 sensors will be a waste of time.
This is a problem we are having right now, GM is working on a fix but nothing is out yet.
Try to avoid extended idle times if you are seeing these codes.
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

the car is still under worenty and i took it to the dealer and toold me that.
for the codes, i don't know them actually but i'll check with them and be back to you.
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

Please excuse my ignorance on this one, but can codes be cleared from the diagnostics screen?



I haven't gotten any DTC codes yet, so it is hard to test.

I sure do miss the "OFF+WARMER" days...


and what the hell is going on with these service manuals? I just thought the 94 model had a lot of pages!!!
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

I have never messed with that screen before, I think that might be an internal radio code check.
Don't know what to tell you there.
Yes the manuals get about an inch thicker every year.
I use them online so I haven't seen a book set for while.
We still get the books but with the online access we have to the manuals they rarely get openend. We keep them around in case of a power outage
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

I am having the same problem with mine. It idled for like 10 mins and now I have a check engine light on and the remote start will not work. Any suggestions?
I don't know what the codes are, but OnStar said it was something in the emissions.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

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Why do you say the O2 sensors need changed?
What are the codes you are seeing?

There is no way to clear the codes manually, you need a scan tool, or the self tests for the code have to run and pass several times.
You can try disconnecting the battery and holding the cable ends together for a couple minutes.

If the codes you are seeing are P0171 and P0174 I'll tell you right now, changing the O2 sensors will be a waste of time.
This is a problem we are having right now, GM is working on a fix but nothing is out yet.
Try to avoid extended idle times if you are seeing these codes.

My 2005 sts4 has been in for service with these codes 4 times in 2 weeks. First the delaer said they re conected a hose, next time they put in a new fuel pump, then a fuel injection cleaner lastly they replaced throtle body. Any idea what is going on here? I have asked caddillac to trade this vehicle for another
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

I spent 2 months working with a software engineer on a problem vehicle recently.
We have had a small number of these run through our shop. No amount of parts replacement has been helpful. All the things that typically cause this code to set are not happening on STS with a N* engine.

GM sent me a specially designed air box to combat this problem and it seemed to help. (on an '07)
They are actually currently researching this problem and working on a calibration enhancement but they have to get it past EPA testing and all the other red tape that comes with a calibration update.

The technical explanation can be pretty complicated.
We did see one that had a bad brake booster, you might let them know about that possibility.
The calibration update should be released this summer.
This problem seems to be worse on the '07 than the older years.
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

ewill thanks for the reply take a look at this could it be the MAF sensor?

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Numerous manufacturers have been
having troubles with their mass airflow (MAF)
sensors recently. The affected sensors are a
Bosch product used widely by foreign and domestic
manufacturers. The symptoms range
from hesitation to stalling to bucking on acceleration.
The malfunction indicator light (MIL)
is often illuminated. The diagnostic trouble
code (DTC) may or may not indicate a faulty
MAF sensor. On many vehicles DTCs P0171
or P0174 for system too lean may be set.
Sometimes an oxygen sensor DTC will be set
as well because the system is running so lean
that the sensor voltage consistently stays low.
Several manufacturers have technical service
bulletins published regarding this problem.
The suggested repair for the problem is to replace
the sensor.
The fault with the sensor appears to
be contamination of the sensor’s hot wire.
The sensor wire is heated to a particular temperature.
Air passing across the sensing wire
cools it. The sensor increases the current to
maintain a constant wire temperature. The
more airflow across the wire the greater thecurrent required to maintain the wire temperature.
This varying current is converted to a
variable frequency that the PCM uses to infer
intake airflow. When the wire becomes contaminated,
the airflow across it does not cool it
as it should. The current is not increased as
much and the PCM “sees” less airflow than is
actually occurring. This results in a lean air/
fuel mixture.
In order to diagnose the sensor, some
suggest cleaning the hot wire with Brake
Kleen or electric cleaner. Lint from low quality
air filters is a very common culprit. Excessive
oil on a K and N air filter will also contaminatethe hot wire and limit its sensitivity. Some
technicians are carefully pulling lint off of the
sensing wire with tweezers. After cleaning the
wire, drive the vehicle to see if the symptoms
have lessened. If so, the sensor is the faulty
component. Some technicians are cleaning the
sensors without replacing them though most
are following the manufacturers suggestion and replacing the sensors.
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

A few of the ones we have seen, no change with a new MAF.
I took one off a brand new car right off the transport, same problem.

It is really a software issue. Like I said, GM is working on it but the fix isn't out yet.
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

thanks for the reply. i am actually in the process of trying to make GM trade this car for another under the lemon law becuase they cannot fix this issue. do you know how many cars are effected
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

It seems to be a random problem from what I have heard.
It looks like it might be related to ethanol content in the fuel, this appears to be worse in cold weather and practically non-existent in the summer.
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ewill3rd, thanks for all the help I told my dealer about this thread they told me they contacted a caddilac technician in michigan and could find no information about this issue or a upcoming fix. Is there soemone specific they can contact to find out about this? My dealer tells me they have never seen a STS with this issue up here in MA.
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

I know for a fact that TAC has some open cases on this concern.
They may not be aware of my fix, I just realized I forgot to close the case.
As I said, I was working directly with an engineer on this one.
Tell them to ask TAC what they have on cases for P0171 and P0174.
I'll try to get them a case closing tomorrow so it will be in the database.

The car in question that I had got bought back, not sure what it's fate was, but based on the tests I ran it was fixed.
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