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You say this is an '05? I wasn't paying attention.
I'll talk to my contact again, but he has told me in the past this issue with the air box may be limited to '07 production.

Hopefully the field engineer will find something that will pinpoint the problem.
I know I have heard of at least one '05 that was fixed with a brake booster.
The powertrain engineer I spoke to, as mentioned, seems to think that the '05 and '07 have some major differences, but I don't see them.

Keep me posted on the progress of your issue and I'll see if I can help.
It is hard from far away.
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Well according to my engineer friend the vendor for '05 and '06 and the origination of the calibrations are from a different place.
I guess for '07 they use a new vendor. I think he said Siemens made the older units and the cals.
Now the units are Hitachi and I am not sure where the cals are coming from.

According to him it looks like they are just overlooking something.
Maybe this brake booster thing I have heard of has something to it.
Wish you lived close to this area, I'd take a crack at it for you.
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what is a brake booster?
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what is a brake booster?
A vacuum operated device that boosts brake line pressure to give power brakes. Conceivably it could have a vacuum leak and lean out the engine.
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Yep, basically it is that big round thing behind the brake master cylinder.
It actually helps you press the brake pedal, it has a big diaphragm inside and they can get holes in them causing an intermittent vacuum leak.
It is pretty rare but not impossible.
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Why do you say the O2 sensors need changed?
What are the codes you are seeing?

There is no way to clear the codes manually, you need a scan tool, or the self tests for the code have to run and pass several times.
You can try disconnecting the battery and holding the cable ends together for a couple minutes.

If the codes you are seeing are P0171 and P0174 I'll tell you right now, changing the O2 sensors will be a waste of time.
This is a problem we are having right now, GM is working on a fix but nothing is out yet.
Try to avoid extended idle times if you are seeing these codes.
Very useful into. I cut and paste posts like this and copy them to a Word file. Sometime in the next few months, yrs, I will use this info.

Thanks,
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thanks for the info I will pass thatn on
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Please excuse my ignorance on this one, but can codes be cleared from the diagnostics screen?



I haven't gotten any DTC codes yet, so it is hard to test.

I sure do miss the "OFF+WARMER" days...


and what the hell is going on with these service manuals? I just thought the 94 model had a lot of pages!!!


Check carefully. More engines and options. I went thru several sets after noticing the same.
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ewill thanks for the reply take a look at this could it be the MAF sensor?

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Numerous manufacturers have been
having troubles with their mass airflow (MAF)
sensors recently. The affected sensors are a
Bosch product used widely by foreign and domestic
manufacturers. The symptoms range
from hesitation to stalling to bucking on acceleration.
The malfunction indicator light (MIL)
is often illuminated. The diagnostic trouble
code (DTC) may or may not indicate a faulty
MAF sensor. On many vehicles DTCs P0171
or P0174 for system too lean may be set.
Sometimes an oxygen sensor DTC will be set
as well because the system is running so lean
that the sensor voltage consistently stays low.
Several manufacturers have technical service
bulletins published regarding this problem.
The suggested repair for the problem is to replace
the sensor.
The fault with the sensor appears to
be contamination of the sensor’s hot wire.
The sensor wire is heated to a particular temperature.
Air passing across the sensing wire
cools it. The sensor increases the current to
maintain a constant wire temperature. The
more airflow across the wire the greater thecurrent required to maintain the wire temperature.
This varying current is converted to a
variable frequency that the PCM uses to infer
intake airflow. When the wire becomes contaminated,
the airflow across it does not cool it
as it should. The current is not increased as
much and the PCM “sees” less airflow than is
actually occurring. This results in a lean air/
fuel mixture.
In order to diagnose the sensor, some
suggest cleaning the hot wire with Brake
Kleen or electric cleaner. Lint from low quality
air filters is a very common culprit. Excessive
oil on a K and N air filter will also contaminatethe hot wire and limit its sensitivity. Some
technicians are carefully pulling lint off of the
sensing wire with tweezers. After cleaning the
wire, drive the vehicle to see if the symptoms
have lessened. If so, the sensor is the faulty
component. Some technicians are cleaning the
sensors without replacing them though most
are following the manufacturers suggestion and replacing the sensors.
Very useful info. Thank you. I am saving it for future use as I will not find that in the shop manual. Who knows, maybe one day I will get to those VCERTT classes.
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

Well got the car back again this time they tell me the code was 440 and they put in a new evap cannister.
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

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Well according to my engineer friend the vendor for '05 and '06 and the origination of the calibrations are from a different place.
I guess for '07 they use a new vendor. I think he said Siemens made the older units and the cals.
Now the units are Hitachi and I am not sure where the cals are coming from.

According to him it looks like they are just overlooking something.
Maybe this brake booster thing I have heard of has something to it.
Wish you lived close to this area, I'd take a crack at it for you.
Gentlemen- I've been searching the 'P0171 / P0174' trouble codes for a few days now and came across this thread. Vehicle is '01 Seville STS with 69,692 miles. I don't have a CEL, just the two codes which I just happened to check when the car started running rough.

ewill3rd- Any ideas? I'm in the area. Thanks.

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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

D,

On an '01 STS you'll have a different problem.
The most common failure on your car will be what is called a "plenum".
If you look at the engine with the cover off you'll see the throttle body and then a black rubber spacer bolted to the back with a hose clamp on the other side.
It likely has a slit at the bottom causing an air leak that is sneaking past the MAF sensor. The computer sees the lean condition but doesn't know where the air is coming from.
We keep them in stock anytime you want to come by.
Let me know.
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D,

On an '01 STS you'll have a different problem.
The most common failure on your car will be what is called a "plenum".
If you look at the engine with the cover off you'll see the throttle body and then a black rubber spacer bolted to the back with a hose clamp on the other side.
It likely has a slit at the bottom causing an air leak that is sneaking past the MAF sensor. The computer sees the lean condition but doesn't know where the air is coming from.
We keep them in stock anytime you want to come by.
Let me know.

Thanks for the reply. I was still looking around the forums for a solution. I'm not sure if it's related or not but this started a few days after changing the oil (Amsoil-already had it in the garage) and adding a bottle of Techron fuel additive to the tank.

I was hoping to have it repaired this up coming week if possible. Thanks again.

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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

FWIW. If you have a split rubber part that handles air, super glue does a heck of a job of mending it. Clean the damaged area with a good degreaser first. Super glue goes to hell in water so the repair is no good for a hose. I've made my own odd sized O-rings with super glue. In fact there used to be a kit available just for this.
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Re: How can I clear the engine service light

Might work Koz, but the split is usually on the bottom and quite hard to reach.
I suppose one could take the plenum off and attempt it.
If you have the money it is worth replacing the plenum.
Also you'll need 8 intake seals, they should be replaced when the intake comes off.
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