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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    Acadia Denalli vs Escalade? It's sort of an apples to oranges comparison but the specs of this Denalli taken in context with what conedoctor has said in the rest of this thread, it crystallizes what really is important to him: increased towing capacity, cost of ownership, good looks, and SRX size.

    Only one question left: Cone, are you ready to do it?

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    See that is the common error, the Acadia Denali is the same size, well 1/2" shorter length and a few inches shorter.

    Crazy eh? The Escalade looks so much bigger, it is 6" longer and wider than the SRX.

    So sort of apples to apples, same size but very different cars. I like the V8 and big towing of the Escalade but I like some of the new cool features and 3rd row setup of the Lambda platform but not fond of the V6 and only 5200lbs towing and from what I have read she no like to pull very much.

    The problem is I like the SRX and so does my wife, not sure if I just want to buy another car or if we need the change. My wife would like the extra room inside and a usable 3rd row, but the SRX totally fits our needs and is so easy to drive but it will not tow the trailer I want to buy, well it will but not safe. I have not driven the Acadia yet but I will, Im sure it will drive like a 288HP front drive boat, I know the Escalade drives like a 403HP awesome truck and is even better chipped. But I think the Acadia wins for new features and cool stuff being at the beginning of its line not the end like the Escalade. But the Escalade is not missing anything, there is my problem. Do I replace my perfectly good car with another perfectly good car?

    My wife and the trailer will decide.

    I was about to buy a Q7 but the value may just not be there and cost of ownership is big, it uses 19 motors to control the HVAC system, that is awesome but..... My other choice is the X5 35D but the big problem is it looks like a BMW inside.

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    Q7...

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    The apples to oranges comment I made did not refer to exterior size so much, but to the interior seating seating room and the options available of the two compared compared to your SRX. The Acadia has a bit less seating room than your SRX while the Escalade has more seating room and options not available on the Denali. Also, the Acadia is basically a front drive crossover, albeit AWD in your configuration and the Escalade is a truck.

    The relatively high towing capacity of the Acadia Denali compared with other lambda crossovers with the 3.6 must be something to do with a stiffer spring rate and shocks. If so, I wonder how the ride would compare with the truck.

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    I recently consider all of these GM cars you are looking at before I bought the SRX. Of course you know most of this, but here goes.

    If you want to tow, there is going to be nothing better than a "truck," period. Regardless of ratings, I can't imagine that there is going to be much measurable difference between the tow-ability of an SRX vs. an Acadia. Neither one are trucks--rather they are cars that are somewhat setup for towing. (Escalade +1)

    Considering how large a vehicle is from the standpoint of parking and maneuvering at low speed, the game is more about visibility than it is about a couple of inches of width or length of the vehicle. (Escalade +1)

    I think the Escalade would be a FAR superior tow vehicle, AND it is much easier to park (way better visibility than a crossover for us short people, esp because of the huge mirrors). I think you already stated that you found it to be equal or superior on all other considerations (third row seats, etc.). (Escalade +1)

    I was looking at 2006 generation trucks. I looked Escalade vs Yukon Denali very closely. I could not stomach the price of the Escalade vs. the Yukon Denali, though I found the Yukon's interior to be embarassing (like lipstick on a pig--just not well executed). (Escalade +/- 1)

    You said the trailer and the wife decide. I think the trailer already made its decision. But if your wife decides she wants a Prius, I think you should buy the Prius--cause that probably matters the most!
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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    Good points, my year range is 07+ or 11+ for the Acadia.

    The 3rd row on the Acadia is the best of all 3 IMO

    The Acadia can tow 5200 vs 4250 of the SRX vs about 8500 for the Escalade, problem is I have an 08 Sierra Denali I can tow with but I want my wife to be able to tow without me. As it was said I would take the Escalade all day to tow with and I would be right at or over the limit of the Acadia and would end up towing in 4th gear as that is what I have read you need when towing a heavy trailer and not sure how it would like Rogers Pass, it would make it of course but at what cost and it would not be fun.

    The Acadia tow rating has nothing to do drivetrain (I looked it up last night) and more with hitch mount, sort of.

    How do you see the Acadia having less seating room than the SRX, am I missing something? SRX is 7 Acadia is 7 or 8 depending on config. Maybe your thinking I have a 2010+ SRX?

    We really don't need one so I am going to let it ride until my wife says she wants to look, our current popup trailer will be with us until at least next year and if I really need a bigger trailer (4900lbs, oh so big lol) I will have to take her car and she can take the truck.

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    Seating room refers to interior demensions: head room, leg room, etc.

    Have you considered the GCVW rating of the Acadia? It appears that towing a 4900 lb. trailer would leave you with less than 700 lbs. for fuel, people, and cargo.

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    Yes sir I did and good point, I would be right at or over the limit.

    This is why the choice is hard, why get rid of the srx for a slight upgrade in the Acadia, tough choices.

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    Cone......has the better half driven the Escalade? You might find as I often do with these things that common sense and needs go right out the window when my wife gets involved. From what you have said you want more space and your future towing needs might mean the Acadia will come up short. Yet your wife likes how the SRX drives. Maybe she won't be so enthralled withe the Escalade once she takes one for a spin because of the increased size.

    Me? I think you are all set with what you have between the SRX and the truck for now. You have the bases covered except she does not sound excited about towing, regardless of the tow vehicle you have for towing. That is what she has you for.....the driver of big and heavy things. PJ

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    BTW.....the Acadia Denali may have the appearance and interior appointments, as well as a lot more space. But it still weighs in 400 pounds heavier than the SRX N AWD. With 10% less horsepower and torque. Can you live with that every day?

    Other thoughts.....I have had both a CHEVY TAHOE and a GMC Yukon as courtesy cars recently when I had the SRX in for service, three days on the first and two days on the second.

    The 5.3L V8 with the 6 speed, and neither had AWD. They both felt slower than the SRX out of the box. On the highway, putting your foot to the floor.....neither vehicle would catch a lower gear that would raise the initial RPM higher than 3,000. The power steering in both felt overboosted. And you sure feel the side to side jostling in the driver's seat with any adjustment of the steering wheel, didn't like that. And with no telescoping steering wheel, my 5'9" and 180 pound carcass could not get comfortable, no matter how I adjusted the seat bolster and seat back: when the pedals felt right the steering wheel was too far away, and visa versa.

    Granted, these were not top end trim vehicles. But they were very low mileage ones. The first had only 3,500 miles on the odometer and the second 9,500. The extra interior space was impressive: 116 cubic feet behind the front seats versus 70 for the SRX. Behind the third row.....24 cubic feet versus 8 for the SRX.

    By the time you optioned out either the TAHOE or the YUKON, you are probably around $55,000......what the SRX N AWD with all of the goodies stickered at, almost. Fuel tank is larger than the SRX, 22 gallons I think. EPA rated for both 16/21. I was on the accelerator, so I did not approach either figure. :-)

    The pre-owned Escalades around here with acceptably low mileage are very pricey. That is making a GMC ACADIA DENALI looking like a good compromise for me. More space than the SRX....and unlike you, I have nothing to tow. The fuel mileage with the Acadia is about 10% better than the GEN l SRX with the Northstar.

    BACK TO THE HOCKEY GAME. I am torn: born and raised in Chicago but have spent the past 25 years in the Boston metro area. :-(. BTW.....did I mention how much I hate posting on a smart phone?

    PJ

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    I have no interest in hockey and I am in Canada, when hockey starts taking place on a road course I will care

    As I said I have no interest in the 5.3 because of the power issue, I want the 6.2 and AWD as these are deal breakers.

    She is ok driving the bigger car but I really should just stay with the SRX and Sierra if I were smart, but....

    I don't usually get too much hassle as long as it has been a few years between cars, I tell her we need a new car or I have to cheat on you. I just love our SRX so much, the red with sport package looks so stunning still.

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    My dilemma is similar. The SRX does so many things well that when you jump into something else it doesn't seem to quite measure up in the things that are important to me. Some may observe that they don't like the way the GenI SRX looks, too angular in some respects; but you can pick one out of a sea of crossovers and SUVs. The Northstar's performance tops everything I have been looking at.

    Stay with what you have. As I said, you have the bases covered.

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    Quote Originally Posted by PJ1520 View Post
    Wife and I are looking as well. GMC ACADIA Denali is our choice preference right now with Escalade still in the mix. I will post what we have ruled out and why when I get a chance. PJ
    Hello PJ,

    It is always an exciting time when looking at purchasing a new vehicle. If you have any questions about vehicles and incentives, please reach out to me via private message so we can further discuss your options

    Regards,

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    Man the Enclave looks nice!

    I drove the SRX on a quick trip tonight and I really would have a hard time giving it up for a big under powered boat, a really nice big underpowered boat mind you.

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    Re: Maybe thinking of going to Escalade

    Conedoctor, just saw this.
    I've had 3 SrXs and we have an '04 Tahoe which I stupidly put 20s on and the chassis can't handle them.
    The negative to the gmt900s is that they are heavy, 5500lbs minimum.
    They have a stiffer chassis than our '04 and the handle a bit better as well.
    I'm with you 6.2l or nothing at all. The 5.3 just doesn't have the tq necessary to stop a lot of gear hunting or for keeping the AFM active.
    I have written off the Acadia because of the 288 hp and the minivan chassis and dynamics.
    We are currently looking at the upcoming all new all aluminum 2014 range rover sport with its 7" longer wheelbase and 3 rd seat.
    We are also waiting for the all new tahoe/Yukon/ escalade next year. More hp, lighter weight, tons of improvements and better gas mileage. They are talking about 24 mpg hwy. but still live axle.

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