Cruise control

[sgilbert]

Hey Terpnut, Take the oil changes & run! 24,000/3,000= 8 changes @ about $80 each. That's $640.00. Ain't too shabby!

[Terpnut]

Originally Posted by sgilbert

Hey Terpnut, Take the oil changes & run! 24,000/3,000= 8 changes @ about $80 each. That's $640.00. Ain't too shabby!

That assumes that I can get the oil changes when I want to every 3,000 miles. My guess is that they would only do them when the oil computer decides it is needed, perhaps every 7,500 miles or more. That would only amount to 3 changes x $70 each = $210. I'd rather have a working cruise control. Working with a Lemon Law attorney as we speak....

[sgilbert]

I've held off commenting here about the cruise control for long enough, as mostly I am completely satisfied with it.

I took an 80 mile trip today, and remembered what most were saying about the cruise.

I set the cruise, and proceeded to experiment. If I pushed accell, I could increase speed to whatever I wanted, and when I let go, cruise would keep it where I ended up.

I then tried to "bump" cruise, and for each one, I increased speed by 1 mph.

Same thing in reverse: Holding "set" buttin, I locked in at whatever speed it was when I let go; likewise, when tapping the "set" I would decrease speed by 1 mpg, and lock on it.

Therefore, I can only conclude that some of you have a defective cruise control &/or module, but, thankfully mine works quite well.

BTW, my SRX build is 3/2004.

PS: Yes, I woule prefer steering wheel controls, but have no qualms with it's current location.

[mack1a]

Your third bullet says it all. The steriodial version of CC surges when you hold accelerate. It then falls of a few MPH when you let go. Yours sounds more like what I would see on the DTS.

Had mine looked at today and the consensus was it ain't great but it is consistent with 2 others they tested.

I have a neighbor from Luxemborg who used to be an automotive engineer in Germany. He and I have had many discussions regarding German vs American autos. I never had a tough time going up against him, when I used my Cadillac and Corvette experiences as my basis. However I close the garage door every time he passes because all it would take would be one glance at the front fenders to undo all credibility I have established for US cars. If he tried the CC he would probably start yodeling for joy.

Oh well I still like the styling and V8 performance.

[Terpnut]

Originally Posted by sgilbert

I've held off commenting here about the cruise control for long enough, as mostly I am completely satisfied with it.

I took an 80 mile trip today, and remembered what most were saying about the cruise.

I set the cruise, and proceeded to experiment. If I pushed accell, I could increase speed to whatever I wanted, and when I let go, cruise would keep it where I ended up.

I then tried to "bump" cruise, and for each one, I increased speed by 1 mph.

Same thing in reverse: Holding "set" buttin, I locked in at whatever speed it was when I let go; likewise, when tapping the "set" I would decrease speed by 1 mpg, and lock on it.

Therefore, I can only conclude that some of you have a defective cruise control &/or module, but, thankfully mine works quite well.

BTW, my SRX build is 3/2004.

PS: Yes, I woule prefer steering wheel controls, but have no qualms with it's current location.

This is all fine except you did not try the problem that I encounter frequently and MUST have working:

1. Hit 'set' at any speed
2. Hit the throttle/accelerator to a higher speed (e.g. 5 mph higher)
3. Hit 'set' again. Cruise control fails to set this speed and vehicle decelerates back to original set speed.

Driving by using a combination of cruise control and throttle is my primary means of highway driving and thus this is a significant flaw in my book.

[dechief4]

Hey Terp -

Not sure from your description how exactly you're 'hitting' set when you are having issues. Have you maybe tried to accelerate using the throttle, reach your desired speed, then press and hold set for a couple of seconds and then let go of the button? If you just momentarily push set while cruise is engaged it'll do the 1 mph speed decrease on you and not set at the new desired, higher speed.
Just a thought...

Dechief

[Terpnut]

Originally Posted by dechief4

Hey Terp -

Not sure from your description how exactly you're 'hitting' set when you are having issues. Have you maybe tried to accelerate using the throttle, reach your desired speed, then press and hold set for a couple of seconds and then let go of the button? If you just momentarily push set while cruise is engaged it'll do the 1 mph speed decrease on you and not set at the new desired, higher speed.
Just a thought...

Dechief

First, pressing and holding for a couple seconds is not per the specifications and would not be acceptable to any user. Second, it doesn't work regardless. Cadillac has already confirmed this as a defect. The only issue at hand is that they cannot and will not fix the defect.

[dechief4]

Originally Posted by Terpnut

First, pressing and holding for a couple seconds is not per the specifications and would not be acceptable to any user. Second, it doesn't work regardless. Cadillac has already confirmed this as a defect. The only issue at hand is that they cannot and will not fix the defect.

Well! I guess you told me, didn't you?! LOL... First, 'any user' is a pretty sweeping claim - I didn't know you presumed to speak for me or the other several thousand users who I'm sure are quite happy with their CC. 'Many users' would probably be more accurate. Second, it does work for me, which is why I made the suggestion as a helping hand to you. Too bad. I've no doubt it appears you have a defect and I'm sorry Cadillac isn't taking care of it for you.

[Johnz]

To tell you the truth, I wasn't aware the cruise had a problem until you brought it up in this thread. I just thought that was the way it worked. It's obvious that I don't depend on cruise as much as "Terp" but to me, pushing the accelerate buttom until you hit your desired speed is not a problem. It is actually the way I use the cruise anyway. I think you spoke before of a "Lunging" effect when doing so but I don't experience that.

As stated earlier, I'm sorry to hear you are having problems with the cruise that is not acceptable to you and I hope you get Caddilac to take care of it the way they should. Good Luck

Does anyone out there have a cruise control that works any different? So far I haven't heard from anyone who has. Maybe it's that way in all the SRX's

[mack1a]

You know what the real problem is? It is an expectations issue. Someone who owns and drives a recent model DeVille can't help but be disappointed by the SRX CC and its' lack of featurability. I probably would have just bought another DTS but my bride wanted something more SUVish and then I got carried away by the V8 performance.

We will basically relegate the SRX to be the local errand car and utility vehicle and use the DTS for long hauls. That solves many things.

[Terpnut]

Originally Posted by dechief4

Well! I guess you told me, didn't you?! LOL... First, 'any user' is a pretty sweeping claim - I didn't know you presumed to speak for me or the other several thousand users who I'm sure are quite happy with their CC. 'Many users' would probably be more accurate. Second, it does work for me, which is why I made the suggestion as a helping hand to you. Too bad. I've no doubt it appears you have a defect and I'm sorry Cadillac isn't taking care of it for you.

Sorry, I did not intend to take out my obvious frustrations on you--your suggestions are appreciated.

[Terpnut]

Originally Posted by Johnz

Does anyone out there have a cruise control that works any different? So far I haven't heard from anyone who has. Maybe it's that way in all the SRX's

Cadillac has stated that this problem does not exist in recent production runs--it is supposedly fixed in all the latest models. I believe several board members have stated so.

[Terpnut]

Originally Posted by mack1a

You know what the real problem is? It is an expectations issue. Someone who owns and drives a recent model DeVille can't help but be disappointed by the SRX CC and its' lack of featurability. I probably would have just bought another DTS but my bride wanted something more SUVish and then I got carried away by the V8 performance.

We will basically relegate the SRX to be the local errand car and utility vehicle and use the DTS for long hauls. That solves many things.

Mack is right-on--this is all about usage and expectations. If you do not have a bad back, have not used other clearly-superior CC's, or if you do not FULLY utilize every aspect of any CC, then you will not think anything negative of the SRX's CC. IOW, you have very low or no expectations of the CC since it is not that important to you. Right now, I would give up my power seats, windows, keyless, RSE or Nav system for a well-designed, properly positioned and fully working CC.

[rcawood]

Originally Posted by Terpnut

IOW, you have very low or no expectations of the CC since it is not that important to you.

Oh that's great. All of the people that have stated a preference for cruise on the stalk are suffering from a case of “low or no expectations”. I’ll be sure to contact you or Mack before my next purchase so I buy what you guys know to be the best.

You have a defective cruise control. I would be upset by that. However your opinion on which is better, wheel or stalk cruise, is no more “right” than any one else’s.

[mack1a]

Gee, I'm sorry, Cadillac got me thouroghly trained on the wheel mounted CC. The wheel mounted CC was the Cadillac way. Because of several years of using it I have completely assimilated it into my over the road driving style. Then they took it away.

I guess they reverted to a manual tilt wheel with no telescope, no turn signals in the mirrors, stalk mounted CC and other changes to cut costs and to give people migrating from other brands something familiar to hang onto.