05 SRX Ultraview Sunroof Problem(s)

caddysrx05 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-30-07, 08:28 PM

Hello,

I'v been having problems with my 2005 SRX Ultraview for a while now. It mainly started out as one problem, however that lead to many more after one of the dealers fixed it wrong. Ok so the original problem was that the roof was only closing half way, and returning back to the open position with the automatic down button. I got that fixed, (eventually after 3 tries) and then I had another problem with the sunroof because it was closing REALLY loud. I'm not sure how the dealer deemed this O.K in the first place, but eventually after 2 more tries I got the noise fixed. Just recently actually. And through a different dealer because the original one told me I'd be waiting months before GM finds a fix to the problem. Funny how GM isn't the one who fixes them, it's a contractor. And of course I got it fixed at the other dealer. Now that I got the closing noise fixed, I find that there is alot of wind noise coming from the sunroof. Now before I go back into the dealer, to get this fixed now, I want to make sure I'm not crazy, and hearing things. I'm ALMOST positive that I didn't have alot of wind noise before all those fixes. Now whenere I drive on the highway and the music is at a normal level I hear ALOT of noise. Especially when I turn it off, it's very significant. Please let me know if this is the case with your cars aswell, because I'm not sure anymore if it used to be like this, or not since it's been so long since I got it first fixed. So let me know whether any of you get loud wind noise coming from the sunroof aswell. Thanks

c5 rv · #2 (**permalink**) 10-30-07, 09:08 PM

Welcome! Do a search and you'll find a raft of threads about ultraview issues.

irishpride · #3 (**permalink**) 10-30-07, 11:16 PM

i have hardly any noise...

john d · #4 (**permalink**) 10-30-07, 11:19 PM

Zero noise

caddysrx05 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-31-07, 12:12 AM

Thanks for the replies. Man that makes me so mad because they never fix it right. I even mentioned to them the problem about noise. This will be maybe my 7th ttme going in to fix the sunroof. I didn't even start off having a big probllm with it, but each time they would fix it and make it worse. This time I' m going to be on them for each and every little detail because this is ridiculous.

robhersch · #6 (**permalink**) 10-31-07, 01:10 AM

Our 2005 SRX N*V8 RWD; never a problem with our UltraView: opening, closing or noise.
Seems like windnoise could only occur if the rubber seals were not properly sealing.
Maybe, the techs that fixed the other problems could tell you whether or not the UV is properly closing.
I would also suggest that: 1) try opening the shade, keep glass top closed; 2) get a source of some smoke; 3) go on the road; 4) release the smoke and watch what happens; 5) take a witness along to help observe the detail of smoke motion.
Good luck, wish you well.

john d · #7 (**permalink**) 10-31-07, 02:22 AM

Another idea is to loosely tape some strips of toilet paper to the seams of the Ultraview and have the a/c blower set on high to bring in outside air (not recir). With the doors and windows closed the tissue will flutter if there's an air gap. Try it and let us know what happened. (finds water leaks too.)
By the way, if anyone asks what your doing tell them its a POS (:-) ! !

MortnCyn · #8 (**permalink**) 10-31-07, 06:03 AM

Just for the record, our '05 UV had no wind noise. It did shudder a bit at one time on closing but that was a lubrication issue.

Paulie Walnuts · #9 (**permalink**) 10-31-07, 08:33 AM

Besides the occasional clunk entering uneven parking garage entry ways, etc. I am quiet as well. In the heat of summer and extreme cool of winter - when I sometimes do sense a slight wind noise - it can be completely eliminated by briefly opened and closing it - just to re-seat the gasket again. I believe cleaning the gasket and seal once in a while to clear it of dirt is a good idea as well.

ckrichards · #10 (**permalink**) 10-31-07, 10:20 AM

The techs can adjust how far closed the sunroof can go. The sunroof can slam down hard(no wind noise more chance of creaking) or stop the sunroof short (no creaking, but more wind noise). One forum member used to tap the open button to slightly open the sunroof to get rid of the creaking noise, but you get more air noise.

caddysrx05 · #11 (**permalink**) 10-31-07, 11:32 PM

I'm going to have to bring mine in and show the guys the wind noise. I think you were right ckrichards because although I did have noise while it creaked, there was more noise onc they fixed the creak. See in my opinion though it should work as well as it did when I first got it. No noise and no creak. They must be able to fix that. I don't beleive that they cannot do it right, I think they aae just lazy. It's contractors that do it, and I'm going to make sure I'm there next time they take a look at it. I'll try the toilet paper trick too, I'll update you on the results. Only thing I don't understand is why I have to blast the A/C. Wouldn't it be better if there was no air system on in order to be able to more accuratly see the paper moving? The A/C isn't suppose to come out of the roof anyways?

john d · #12 (**permalink**) 11-01-07, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by caddysrx05

I'm going to have to bring mine in and show the guys the wind noise. I think you were right ckrichards because although I did have noise while it creaked, there was more noise onc they fixed the creak. See in my opinion though it should work as well as it did when I first got it. No noise and no creak. They must be able to fix that. I don't beleive that they cannot do it right, I think they aae just lazy. It's contractors that do it, and I'm going to make sure I'm there next time they take a look at it. I'll try the toilet paper trick too, I'll update you on the results. Only thing I don't understand is why I have to blast the A/C. Wouldn't it be better if there was no air system on in order to be able to more accuratly see the paper moving? The A/C isn't suppose to come out of the roof anyways?

The cabin will be pressurized and the air will escape through gaps around anything such as the top, windows, doors, etc.
I failed to mention this test is done with the car parked, preferably in a open garage if the engine is running.

MortnCyn · #13 (**permalink**) 11-01-07, 07:05 AM

john d is correct. For instance, when I close the door on my MARK VIII I can literally see the moon roof jump from the change in pressure. As I recall there was a time GM recommended keeping your AC system on outside air to push any potential carbon monoxide out of the vehicle. Air escapes around the door seals as well as through the trunk on cars.

caddysrx05 · #14 (**permalink**) 11-02-07, 05:37 PM

Ok, so I did the test, just I'm not sure if I did it right. I taped 2 pieces of toilet paper to the front of the ultraview and they did flutter. I noticed then that a lot of air was blowing at them so I blocked the 2 front vents and they still fluttered. Some air from the vents might have gottan to them, but I think it still proves the point because not only is there a loud noise, but they still moved even after blocking the vent. Next time I go to the dealer I really hope everything can get fixed once and for all. Thanks for all the advice!

john d · #15 (**permalink**) 11-02-07, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by caddysrx05

Ok, so I did the test, just I'm not sure if I did it right. I taped 2 pieces of toilet paper to the front of the ultraview and they did flutter. I noticed then that a lot of air was blowing at them so I blocked the 2 front vents and they still fluttered. Some air from the vents might have gottan to them, but I think it still proves the point because not only is there a loud noise, but they still moved even after blocking the vent. Next time I go to the dealer I really hope everything can get fixed once and for all. Thanks for all the advice!

Now that we know air is blowing out from the TP test do the test again without the TP and just move your hand a half inch above and along the seam/crack(wet hand is best) of the Ultra view and the top. If you can feel it dry then you can have the dealer do the same to demonstrate that the UV isn't sealing correctly. The front vents aimed at the top shouldn't defeat a proper seal of the UV. Just think what a car wash would do from the outside!
Good luck on the "once and for all" thing..
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