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    Traction Control Engaged

    I have recently bought a 1997 sts, Initionally I had codes for RF wheel sensor, I cleared them and they haven't came back yet.
    But the traction control engaged is coming on the dash fairly often, but hasn't thrown a code yet.
    I kind of thought it was the RF wheel sensor but wanted to check one more time, I got the traction alarm but no codes set yet.
    What else could be triggering this engaging, or is it just a matter of time before a code get set.

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    you can get the traction engaged message very easily on a STS.
    what you need to post is whether the message comes on whilst you are driving calmly in a straight line or when you're pulling away.
    traction messages while driving calmly in a straight line are not normal, traction messages while pulling away and cornering are.
    300hp means lots of front wheel scrabble

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    do the british really say whilst rather than while initionally? Just kidding. Hey nigel, what is an RHD?

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    ^^ Right hand drive.

    The op's TC doesn't seem normal. Are you driving the car "aggressively"?

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    Quote Originally Posted by Mccalist View Post
    do the british really say whilst rather than while initionally? Just kidding. Hey nigel, what is an RHD?
    yes, some of us do.

    RHD is Right Hand Drive
    Cadillac saw sense and put a few steering wheels on the correct side of the car at the factory
    it makes us different from the french and germans and we like it that way.
    if i remember correctly RHD was initially used in the US, but i guess you decided that you wanted to be the same as the canadians

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    Although I don't agree with all peoples' politics, it's no reason to turn a perfectly fine mode of transportation bass-ackwards. I suppose no more should be expected from a country pretentious enough to hang on to the word "whilst."

    In fact, the only good reason to drive a RHD vehicle is to deliver mail in a proper LHD society.

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    Sorry I didn't get back to some of you right away, I was out of town a couple of days,To answer your questions no, I'm not driving aggresivley when the traction engages, just normal stop sign stop and go stuff, doesn't seem to matter whether I'm turning or not,so far haven't gotten return of any codes, no ABS stuff either,also when traction control turned off in glove box no alarms.
    Thanks for your responses so far.

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    Hey guys, I've added some more info you were asking about, if you have some ideas for some direction I would appreciate it.
    Thanks for your time.

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    There was a bulletin for some older cars (at least I call them older) to replace the wheel speed sensor jumper harnesses. They are suceptible to EMI, or basically a "false signal". Your harnesses are absorbing signals from other systems on the car and telling the EBCM that your losing traction. That's why you get a "Traction Active" message with no codes.
    The computer thinks it's working properly based on the inputs.

    It CAN be done DIY, but it would be easier, and more expensive, to have it done.

    Subject: Intermittent Traction Engaged Message/ABS Warning Lamp (Replace Wiring Harness) #00-05-25-003 - (09/12/2000)



    Models: 1997 Cadillac Seville

    1997-1999 Cadillac DeVille

    1997-2000 Cadillac Eldorado




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    Condition
    Some customers may comment on one or more of the following conditions when accelerating from a stop:

    • An underhood noise may be heard in the passenger compartment (ABS pump running)

    • The "Traction Engaged" message may momentarily appear on the Driver Information Center

    • The amber ABS warning lamp may come on and a DTC C1225 may be set as a current or history DTC

    Cause
    Electrical noise is induced into the left front wheel speed sensor harness due to electrical activity of the surrounding wires within the harness.

    Correction
    If the above conditions cannot be corrected by using the normal strategy based diagnostics listed in the applicable Service Manual, replace the engine compartment section of the left front wheel speed sensor harness with the harness contained in service kit, P/N 12167672.

    Important: To insure correct installation, the instructions contained in the kit must be followed.

    Parts Information
    Part Number
    Description

    12167672
    Wiring Harness Kit


    Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    ewill3rd
    I just ordered this harness, Actually it has been replaced by P/N 19177090.
    I was wondering if you have the instructions. I asked the sales person for them but he said there isn't any. I would like to do this over this weekend. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you have them or a link to them could you please e mail them to me at nmforte@comcast.net
    Thanks,
    Nick

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    According to the bulletin... "Important: To insure correct installation, the instructions contained in the kit must be followed."

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    Someone give this a bump for me tomorrow.

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    hey E will. I will give it a bump for ya tomorow.

    I also wanted to know if you could tell me where i could find my evap controller thingy i am getting p0443. i think i need a new plug but cant find a wiring diagram or where it is located ( 2001 dts)
    possibly get a diagram for its setup in the engine bay
    back on topic. thanks

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    Bump!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Traction Control Engaged

    One more bump... pretty busy today.
    Sorry.
    Are you doing the right side?
    I may have neglected to mention that we usually use 2 harnesses for the right side, you have to connect them back to back for the length.
    The left one will reach.

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