300 HP is not what it used to be.

[tkarlstad]

Originally Posted by the727kid

And to the Hyundai thing.....in the end your riding a Hyundai and I'm riding a Cadillac end of story. You can always put $50,000 into a Civic to make it beat a Viper, but in the end hes got a Civic and you got a Viper, guess whos going to take the girl home that night?

Finally, a good solid nail in the coffin. I bought a Cadillac for one simple reason.... in 5 days, 5 weeks, 5 years, 50 years it will still be a Cadillac.
Think about when you drive anywhere and people see you, their first reaction...."hey Mr. Cadillac!!" or "Hey you got a Cadi." they don't say that about any other car. and remember there is a reason there is the saying "That is the Cadillac of so and so....." the saying doesn't go....."That is the Hyundai of" or "That is the SRT10 of" or even "That is the Bentley of" It is always the Cadillac. Whether Cadillac's had an era they sucked, or some of the 90's models are being left behind by todays more advanced tech on some mid-level cars, they are still the Cadillac of the industry. You think Cadillac is not what it used to be....remember you are in the Seville Eldo forum. Go check the XLR/STS forums, they are caring the torch just fine.

[Cadillacboy]

Ok, 300 HP seems kinda underpowered to STS ,but let's not forget we also have a V Series for performance driving
Besides I don't feel way uncomfortable to be beated by some shit and craps korean mades

[Lord Cadillac]

Originally Posted by Big_Caddy_Shack

Its the feeling you get while driving your caddy. Caddy's will still get the looks over the hyundais, even if it is faster.

Right. Of course. I'm not saying it's better to own a Hyundai. Heck, Camaros and Trans Ams are faster than Eldorados and Sevilles but I'd rather have the Cadillacs.. We're just talking about the fact that 300 horsepower doesn't get you very far these days (in performance)...

[Lord Cadillac]

300 horsepower is fine for our cars but the fact is, luxury car buyers want luxury AND power. Big luxury cars ARE fast now. AND they even handle pretty well.. Lexus LS430, BMW 750-Series, Mercedes S-Class, Audi A8, Infiniti Q45 - All big, luxurious cars that do 0-60 in less than 6 seconds...

[Guy,mn.usa]

There is not enough o's in smooth to describe how my N* runs all 300 hp's. And how many songs have they written talkin Caddys? Caddys are very cool always have been cool. I take a '48 or 49 short trunk rag top with air bags 20's shaved handles smoothed out black with tan rag top, red stock leather interior with caddy old 3 duese set-up on the v8....now thats what i call 300hp!!!
My thought I'm happy with a 450hp 500 ft # gto....I know there always is someone who have more! I love the sound this thing makes...sweetness!
But cruisin a sts is too bad either....love the car!
I've been in my buddy's 2003 Salleen rag top...nice car for 375hp but I'd say it's over rated the way it is stock....the way he drives....my sts will surprice him.
Rule of thumb....you can always use more.

[Omega-Red]

Ok first off not to be an ******* or anything but caddy was never meant to be a fast car (excluding CTSV of cause because its a ****ing beast) Caddy was meant to be a luxury car. And I agree with a statement by that 16 year old kid. Right now we are in the era of muscle car age were each manufacture is trying to come up with crazy HP cars. I agree with the statement that nowadays 300 HP is hardly anything because an average decent car is expected to come with that much HP or be be as equivalent fast by other means. If you want to go fast buy a sports car if you want luxury buy a caddy or any other relevant luxury car. And remember you can tune any car nowadays so if you want to have your caddy and go fast in straight-line get yourself an engine swap or turbo system or supercharger setup

That's my facts

[boricuacaddy]

My brother owns a 2004 Honda Accord, he had a date with this girl he met at a friends party, he got her number and called her up and set-up a date with her one weekend. Well, he came up to me and ask me to borrow him my car. I said why? Is something wrong with yours? He then replied no! He said, I want to impress the girl with your car. I just laughed and said but your car is newer than mine and he replied yeah but it isn't a Cadillac! There you have it Prestige!

David

[Lord Cadillac]

While Cadillacs may not be intended as fast cars, they're cross-shopped with other luxury cars that are getting faster and faster. So the need for faster and faster is obvious, or Cadillac will stop selling cars.

[Guy,mn.usa]

insurance and the epa will soon kill the big numbers just like it did in the early 70's. Seems like will be doing a full circle again to me. One thing is for sure old original muscle cars will never be dulicated again like there trying now. So keep your nice caddy N* it's got more than enough ponies and buy an original muscle car if you can find one or afford one at todays prices. Restore it enjoy it and sell it as part of your 401k plan

[the727kid]

Originally Posted by Administrator

While Cadillacs may not be intended as fast cars, they're cross-shopped with other luxury cars that are getting faster and faster. So the need for faster and faster is obvious, or Cadillac will stop selling cars.

For an administrator your not to bright. Cadillac will carry GM on its back...they could come out with 200hp engines and sell the same exact numbers they are now. People don't buy Cadillacs for speed, not even a V-Series. They a V-series for a fast Cadillac. If everybody was buying cars for speed basically every company would go out of business except Chrsyler-Daimer.

[Odin8]

...Hey...look! Something shiny!

[inurok]

Originally Posted by Beefmalone

That MAY be true, but when those Hyundais are the age our cars are now they'll all be in the junkyard while ours are still cruising.

That used to be the case not anymore. The newer hyundais will be running fine when our electronic nighmares are still costing us $$$ in repairs..

[Lord Cadillac]

Originally Posted by the727kid

For an administrator your not to bright.

Here's your first warning for breaking the following rules (according to our user agreement):

1. No flaming of other members to incite or perpetuate a conflict or argument.
2. Personal attacks or name-calling can get you banned.
3. Respect both forum moderators and administrators.
4. Post in a manner that promotes good will in the community.

Everyone around here who knows me understands that I don't hold grudges.As for the rest of your post:

Originally Posted by the727kid

Cadillac will carry GM on its back...they could come out with 200hp engines and sell the same exact numbers they are now.

I'd love to see that...

Originally Posted by the727kid

People don't buy Cadillacs for speed, not even a V-Series.

That's laughable...

Originally Posted by the727kid

If everybody was buying cars for speed basically every company would go out of business except Chrsyler-Daimer

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

I suppose I could be wrong about everything I'm saying here.. If so, then please rememeber that I'm only human, I make mistakes, and I don't like people Telling me that I'm "not too bright for a [whatever]"...

[inurok]

Originally Posted by Administrator

Right. Of course. I'm not saying it's better to own a Hyundai. Heck, Camaros and Trans Ams are faster than Eldorados and Sevilles but I'd rather have the Cadillacs.. We're just talking about the fact that 300 horsepower doesn't get you very far these days (in performance)...

People need to remember that cadillacs are not about all out speed but instead refined performance.

[tkarlstad]

Originally Posted by Administrator

300 horsepower is fine for our cars but the fact is, luxury car buyers want luxury AND power. Big luxury cars ARE fast now. AND they even handle pretty well.. Lexus LS430, BMW 750-Series, Mercedes S-Class, Audi A8, Infiniti Q45 - All big, luxurious cars that do 0-60 in less than 6 seconds...

Admin, I am not sure where you are going with this? You need to compare apples to apples. You are comparing Sevilles and Eldos of late 1990's with luxary cars of today?? You want luxury and power compare the V-series XLR, STS, and CTS with those others you mentioned. Where were the BMW's and the rest in the late 90's when Eldo's were putting out 300+HP, stock, when it meant something? Just like sports, it is hard to compare era's and what matters than compared to what matters today.
But you know what you can't dispute from than and now????....A Cadillac still is the original and the standard.